On Wed, July 30, 2008 9:07 am, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > I will not reply to comments like these in detail. You would not > understand.
Sean: Ad homen attacks aside, you need to respond in public to Marcus's substantive points. He is an important community developer, and he is expressing real issues that are widely felt. Tango GPS is a killer application for OpenMoko, and if we loose it, then we substantially weaken the platform, you should think very carefully before burning that bridge. I dont think it was helpful for him to insult you, I guess he was angry, but regardless his points about getting a working platform now are important. You want to build up a community around OpenMoko, from which you hope will flow lots of useful applications. You where very successful in doing that before the hardware was released, but now that it has, and thousands of enthusiast have put down a months rent on a unit of hardware there is widespread frustration. None of us expected an iPhone like polished and fully integrated software stack, but we did expect a developer friendly platform with some basic functionality that would mostly work. Instead the software distributions are forked 5 ways, and none of them work. I am sure I am not the only person who is disinclined to put any effort into finding or fixing the many bugs because I have no idea which distributions will emerge from the mess. You hope that the community to come up with lots of useful applets and full applications, to run on the first open cell phone. For that to happen most people will be 'scratching an itch' The problem is that they will not chose to use an OpenMoko to scratch that itch unless they are carrying it with them, which won't happen until basic phone functionality is working, and most enthusiasts are carrying their OpenMoko as their personal phone. The Wiki and Mailing lists are absolutely brimming with ideas, many of which would be quick to code in a scripting language, but none of this will happen until the basics are there. As Marcus says, the staff a OpenMoko need to put FSO/ASU aside for a while at least and refocus on getting working phone functionality from OM2007.2 as soon as possible. All the design docs are already there on the Wiki and have been for 18 months, it just needs implementing. Once the ecosystem has been started properly you can spend time if you must on your blue sky projects with their clever design. -- David Pottage Error compiling committee.c To many arguments to function. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community