> Oh come on. After reading all your (and others') scary messages > about that, I decided to give it a try. So I pointed my browser to > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile. Half an hour later, I had > a build in progress. Most of that half-hour was spent waiting for > stuff to download, and part of the rest was due to my running the > whole stuff in a particular isolated environment (cowbuilder chroot, > for those who care) with its own characteristics (stuff runs as root, > and I didn't have a home directory). >
great that its working for you, looking forward to future news of your .ipk URL's .. > Of course, the build hasn't completed yet (I have a few *.ipk > already, but the webpage mentions 5 hours on a computer that's rather > faster than mine), but if pasting less than 15 commands straight from > a web page is too high a barrier to entry for prospective developers, > I doubt they'd be able to accomplish much even if it was a single > command to run. > since where did i say that i couldn't follow the instructions on the wiki? the issue is that there is no one stable, common, build system - or distribution channel - for developers to pop their stuff into, and with the moving targets of 'fso' vs. 'asu' vs 'om2007.2' vs 'underground' vs '&etc', its a bother. much more fun, right now, to hack code *on* the machine itself, put up with slow (actually not bad considering how much code gets written in between compiles) build times, but have a development environment that sits on a 512m SD card rather than .. 12 gigs, not counting the VM backups i've been doing over 12 months of tracking mokomakefile .. > Half an hour. 15 commands to copy and paste. How much more > hand-holding does a developer need? please, do not assume i am a fool unless you would consider like countenance. its not the hand-holding or the trick makefiles. its the dire lack of a dictator to rally around and form a federation .. and as a result, actually, building apps for the phone *with* the phone is turning out to be, frankly, a lot more workable - and lightweight - than over a year of mokomakefile groupthink right about now .. ; -- Jay Vaughan _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community