7MB/s should be enough for anyone :) IMHO when you view the Glamo as just a few cores it becomes a lot cooler.
On 8/15/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:32:22 +0200 Joachim Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > >> qrazi wrote: >> > The test referred to are with the nettop version of the Atom, the Atom >> > N230. >> > That CPU is paired with a standard 945GC chipset, which consumes between >> > 15 >> > and 20 Watt. Hence the high power draws in those reviews. >> > >> > Intel also has the Z series, which include speedstep for even lower >> > powerconsumption for the CPU itself, but they are also to be used with >> > the >> > Intel US15 mobile chipset. For a 1.6 GHz Z530 Atom, with the US15 >> > chipset, a >> > maximum draw of 5 Watt is reported. That is way lower then the >> > combination >> > that PC Perspective has tested. >> > >> > Although probably still not low enough for use in a phone. That however >> > might come in future generations, since Intels plans are to include >> > more, if >> > not all, of the chipset functions into the cpu itself. >> > >> >> thanks for summarizing it so well >> thats also my conclusion: x86 is not ready yet for really mobile use. >> we should evaluate it more when they can punch the '<1W when in use' >> limit. >> >> for comparison: our cpu currently uses <90mA when in use. >> add the chipset, the lcm and interfaces (don't forget wifi, bt and gsm) >> and then see battery sizes and capacity -> for a reasonable standby AND >> talk time we need to not peak far beyond 1W when in use and be far >> beyond that all the rest of the time. >> also things like high-clocked ram (ddr compared to simple sdram) or >> internal usb connections are energy suckers (thats why sdram with >> <200mhz and things like sdio/spi/i2c/cmoslevel-serial is preferred to >> usb and ddr ram. >> >> its always getting things into a tricky balance to have something usable >> at the end (and not a 'see how fluid it moves the icon' - 'oh.. batter >> is empty' - showcase ;) > > aye - and even so. arm-based solutions are cranking up the power. omap 3xxx > and > qualcomm's snapdragon are not slow-pokes. and they are far beyond anything > intel has in performance-per-watt when you are in the 1watt (give or take) > world. indeed you are very right - when intel have scaled DOWN to the > existing > embedded world.. we can talk, but as such an x86 phone is only a > "development > convenience" compared to arm (no cross-compiling from an x86 desktop). > > though we need to accept that we need to move beyond SDR into DDR/DDR2 ram > and > higher clockrates anyway - we need more performance to do the things people > want, we just need to do it with the right generation of SOC that has > reigned > these power requirements in a bit... and well - maybe accept we need a > meatier > battery :) > > -- > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
