On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:49:33 +0200 Tilman Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> And come on. Software is not perfect. Sometimes we have to live with a > dreamteam like (old) firefox and x11. I had times when they had both man it gets annoying people blaming x11 for memory problems. it is rarely a cause. it LOOKs bad because it is allocating ram FOR client apps (like firefox) - when firefox asks for 300mb of pixmaps.. the memory sits in x11 - not in firefox. use xrestop. example: res-base Wins GCs Fnts Pxms Misc Pxm mem Other Total PID Identifier 1c00000 333 435 1 374 332 36940K 26K 36967K 15872 Main - Mozilla PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 15872 raster 20 0 432m 198m 27m S 11 6.0 1:09.77 firefox it's simple - but firefox has alone ASKED x to allocate just under 37mb of pixmap memory... and that is not included in firefox's base - everyone goes around blaming x. x invariably is the victim of its clients resource requests and the need of having to MAP lots of video card memory and resources into its space - thus looking big (though it really just brought in video memory and card registers in - not real memory). > hundreds of megs virtual mem. But everything was fine because it all was > just harmlessly been swaped away. I restarted them every weekend to not > let it become worse. > Not ideal, but should the system rather be unusable in this condition? we should have a userspace oom that on low-memory kills off "user apps" (not xserver or wm or basic required processes - just optional ones like calculator, addressbook, web browser etc.) when things get low - not going and adding swap. > -- > Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. > Please print this mail only on recycled paper. > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
