On 1 Sep 2008, at 21:27, Ole Kliemann wrote: > ... > I just realised why my drop-call solution is so much superior to any > IMAP-idle or interval checking. It's funny no one thought about this > yet. > > When using IMAP-idle you can hardly suspend, can you? At least it > would > be necessary to keep the connection open, handle incoming traffic and > wake in case of new mail. I guess to do so will require the whole > system > to be running. > > When using interval checking you have the extra costs and extra > battery > drainage because of resuming every 3 minutes.
I don't really see what the problem is with this. An application should be able to wake up the phone from suspend (or rather add an entry to the `at` queue saying "wake me at this time") and it should be able to fire up a GPRS connection. How long will it take to check for new mail? 15 seconds? In that case you're effectively going to lose 15 seconds of battery talktime for every check. If you check every 5 minutes then for every hour suspended you'll use additional battery at a rate equivalent to 3 minutes of talktime. Checking every 5 minutes means that you get a message on average within 2.5 minutes of it hitting your mailbox; checking every 15 minutes means that you get a message on average 7.5 minutes after it hits your mailbox, which is probably a better battery compromise. The N95 manages this, why shouldn't the Freerunner? I did ask in one of my previous posts whether the Openmoko work on dbus will accommodate a program sleeping (suspending?) the phone &/or initialising a GPRS connection, but I got no reply (because I waffled too much in that post, apparently). Some kind of standard method is surely needed, because I could see it being quite complicated (and quite Freerunner-specific) to do this stuff otherwise. > If you use notification by drop-call, the FR can sleep through - the > modem handles the wakeup. I'll be honest, I just don't personally like drop-calling. I dislike it when a girl does it to you because she's too tight to buy minutes (irrespective of the number she's wasted already this month and because she knows a guy will always return a pretty girl's call) and I find it a little inelegant for this application. So please bear in mind my prejudice. It certainly should be possible to run an arbitrary program upon incoming call (instead of the ringer) based on the incoming number. Personally I'd like to use this to ignore people, play an answerphone message to low-priority customers & so on - there are lots of applications for this, so if it's implemented you should be able to do as you wish. Another poster mentioned that some cell companies may block the number of frequent drop-callers. Presumably it costs one of the call- providers money to initiate a call which you are not then billed for? So it does seem to be slightly naughty, too. You're right, though - ideally this should be handled by the phone's modem (or by the phone's phone (??)) hardware, because that's already handling incoming radio and sleep / wake-up. If only there were a way to send a text message to a phone freely over the internet - we could use that far more effectively for "pushing" our mail (or anything else). The money mobile phone companies make from SMS messages, however, I suspect this is a forlorn hope. Stroller. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
