The OpenMoko FreeRunner was never aimed at end users. It's always been aimed at developers, and if you don't know how to set routes do a man "ip" or "ip help." There are a fair chunk of those developers who don't have the IP overlap issue. I'd say there are maybe 1000 active freerunner users, and maybe 60% of them have an overlapping IP. I counted how long it takes to change the IP (on debian) (including adding routes, setting link up), and it was about 45 seconds. That's a total of 7.5 man hours world wide. Installing active desktop, and all the other crap for my palm phone takes 20-35 minutes--way longer. Anyways, I'm just saying 7.5 global hours isn't very much when you're considering mass market smart phones probably soak up millions of hours a year. Additionally, 7.5 is NOTHING, especially when there are 6.5 billion people in the world. Stop yer whining.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <[email protected]> wrote: > > Am 18.12.2008 um 19:50 schrieb Sargun Dhillon: > >> Most Linux users, or most users that this device is aimed at are >> intelligent enough to do a >> "ip addr add 192.168.0.200/32 dev usb0" >> "ip route add 192.168.0.202/32 dev usb0" >> This will only make two addresses on your network inaccessible. Then >> you can SSH into it, and change the IP address. This takes a whole 5 >> minutes! It'll make you miserable to not have connectivity, I >> understand, but just handle it. > > I read the discussion as the request to avoid the situation completely > (spend 0 minutes) instead of handling it. Saves 10000 people 5 minutes > each, i.e. 34.7 days. And, you have forgot that learning how to do > that takes more than 5 minutes if you are not an experienced sysadmin. > >> We've finally standardized on a set of IPs, and -everyone- is happy >> with it, except a few individuals who don't know how to use their >> system. > > Hm, I always thought that the FR is aimed at the *mass market* Not for > the 0.01% of individuals (i.e. PC users worldwide) who know by heart > how to set IP routes... > > Just my 2ct. > > Nikolaus > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
