Using sdcard for debian may be no problem. What I currently don't know, is if I still can use uBoot or have to install Qi with seems may fail. I don't want to kill the boot manager accidantly and then be unable to reflash :-)
But this is RTFM I must do :-( BTW, I have a 16GB card that is working - at least seen with navit accessing the germany.bin file :-) Currently I download the new FSO image from today to see if there are no more problems with GPS. What has been failed is upgrading from 4.1 to testing as I then no more have any XServer or GUI :-( Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: > > If the versions are compareable than it seems that your fso-frameworkd > is newer (0.8.4.4>0.8.4.3) and fso-gpsd is older (0.7<0.8). > The only thing i know is that i had much problems with older fso-gpsd > versions and now it works without problems. Maybe this is a point where > you could investigate. > > Debian uses the complete fso framework inclusive zhone as phone > application. > > I prefer debian because i have access to much more programs than with > any other distro. Even things like openoffice, wireshark, firefox etc is > available for the freerunner in debian. :) > > The other side is that it doesn't fit into the 256MB nand flash. The > default install uses nearly 1GB but there seems to be people who tries > to fit a slimed version into nand. But for me this is no problem if i > have to install it on my sd-card (8GB). In return i have a full linux > with normal windowmanager and all possibilities i want and need. > > The downside of this is that it is slower and consumes more memory than > most other distros. I think with a bit less ressource hungry > windowmanager it will improve quite a bit. But at the moment i use xfce > with all nice extras. ;) > > Good thing is that i have one distro in nand and debian on my sd-card. > So i can boot what i want when i want. > > Ciao, > Rainer > > > lollisoft wrote: >> Sorry, my post should look like this :-) >> >> That's what I see when list installed: >> >> r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep gps >> fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - >> tangogps - 0.9.3-r3.1 - >> r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep framework >> frameworkd - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - >> frameworkd-config - >> 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - >> r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep fso >> fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - >> fso-sounds - 0.0.1+gitrb24d3c2e66fee10a5e288101cd1b6f5bbd3da7e2-r0.1 - >> task-fso-compliance - 1.0-r1.1 - >> >> r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a >> Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Nov 18 18:04:32 CET 2008 armv4tl >> unknown >> >> And - I am not using debian. My OS is FSO milestone 4.1 aka 'more >> homework'. >> >> Another question: Has debian also the possibility to run Zhone ? >> >> Do you prefer debian before FSO ? >> >> Is debian as small to fit in internal flash (not on /media/card) ? >> >> This phone software is compact and therefore fast. >> >> Thanks >> >> Lothar >> >> >> >> Fox Mulder wrote: >>> I use debian with fso and when i install fso-gpsd no gpsd is installed >>> as dependency because it would make no sense. >>> Fso-gpsd IS the gpsd compatibility wrapper which does the same what gpsd >>> does for the client applications. So be sure not to have fso-gpsd and >>> gpsd installed. Both programs try to access the gps which doesn't work. >>> >>> My current version of fso-gpsd in debian is 0.8-2 and my fso-frameworkd >>> is 0.8.4.3-20081215-1. Both are from the official debian repository. >>> >>> lollisoft wrote: >>>> I haven't success. >>>> >>>> My FSO is the 'more homework' version 4.1. >>>> >>>> Installing gpsd really installs fso-gpsd. Installing tangogps complains >>>> about having two >>>> versions matching gpsg, eg. the fso-gpsd and the compatibility (gpsd) >>>> wrapper that seems >>>> to be installed with fso-gpsd. >>>> >>>> What version do you use exactly (image locations) ? >>>> >>>> Tahnks >>>> >>>> Lothar >>>> >>>> >>>> lollisoft wrote: >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> I'll try that too. Also when the connections to the port are more than >>>>> 0 >>>>> it could be >>>>> useful to disabling illume to lower the brightness and the like. >>>>> >>>>> Is this possible within a script ? >>>>> >>>>> Lothar >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fox Mulder wrote: >>>>>> I did nothing special. >>>>>> I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago >>>>>> fso-gpsd >>>>>> wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to >>>>>> replace >>>>>> gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. >>>>>> Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon >>>>>> as >>>>>> a >>>>>> connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when >>>>>> the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the >>>>>> moment i like it. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Ciao, >>>>>> Rainer >>>>>> >>>>>> lollisoft wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what did you made to get GPS working in general ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See my post about GPS ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lothar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fox Mulder wrote: >>>>>>>> Since a few weeks i'm using fso-gpsd without any big problems so >>>>>>>> far. >>>>>>>> The only problem is that the TTFF (time to first fix) is always >1 >>>>>>>> minute and sometimes it needs quite a lot of time. The only >>>>>>>> solution >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> me to be sure to get a fix within <30 sec is to use the agps tool >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>> downloads the almanac and ephemeris from ublox for my region. >>>>>>>> The problem is, that the gps chip doesn't have any internal memory >>>>>>>> why >>>>>>>> it needs to download all relevant gps data every time it is powered >>>>>>>> up. >>>>>>>> So i thought if it is possible to save the relevant gps data before >>>>>>>> shutting down the gps which can be done by fso-gpsd or kernel >>>>>>>> automatically. Than after starting the gps fso-gpsd/kernel feeds >>>>>>>> back >>>>>>>> the data to speed up the TTFF. This would be the same way most gps >>>>>>>> receivers work. >>>>>>>> Maybe this is already implemented somewhere but i don't think so >>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>> the TTFF without agps is always quite slow. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ciao, >>>>>>>> Rainer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Openmoko community mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Openmoko community mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Openmoko community mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Speed-gps-time-to-firxt-fix-up--tp2105634p2109068.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
