Hi, thanks for the kind words and the list of issues. We are trying to get all of them reproduced, so that I can hunt them down :) If you can reproduce the freezing issues or where the UI crashed, it would be great if you could open a ticket on http://www.paroli-project.org/trac and attach the paroli log and the fso log (/var/log/paroli.log and /var/log/frameworkd.log).
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > Hi! > > Thanks for this new release, really happy to see that only a short > time (a week?) after the previous there's already a new release with > bugs fixed. Release early, release often, as they say :) > > I wrote some points below to show what's good, what I concider as > bug/problem and points to discuss/wishlist/something. I'm sure some of > it has already been discussed, some of it is just me not knowing how > to use it (which can mean that it's not easy to use or a > manual/something is needed) and so on. I'm happy to receive comments! > > + This actually makes FR a simple, very working phone!! (I actually > got a 10 min call from my mum. In the end I asked and she said there's > a small echo left) > + ability to turn off PIN check & change pin! (I think it's the first > distro that can do it :) > + WLAN-tool > + manual suspend > + decent resume speed > > - some mess sometimes in the top of the scree > - The button to 'go back / go to previous screen' keeps changing: In > the menu there's a 'back' button (different size in different views) > but in the people etc one has to know to press the top bar to go back. > - Empty I/O shows an 'edit' button.. maybe it should be hidden and > instead a text 'no logged events' could be shown? good idea added to my list > - keylock missing think angus tried to find a suitable tool > ¤ Would it be possible to add a SMS button in the 'People' -> contact > view. Now clicking the number calls the user (intuitive? Why clicking > the name nothing happens?). Maybe adding 'dial' and 'SMS' -buttons > there just to make it clear. The entries in people, messages and i/o should all be slidable (odd spelling) to the right and show you an extra action, for people this is a msgs button. unfortunately it seems to be not working for people, but in the other lists it seems ok. > - If one by accidentally presses 'Enter in the PIN input view, it just > accepts it and doesn't ask for PIN again. It does not return if you enter a wrong PIN? > - wlan scan doesn't have a progress bar telling it's actually doing something I am bound to what connman provides me. I don't get any progress sadly. Should Paroli block any action until it found a network (which can be bad in case there is none)? Or should it block until the scan is done (I believe there is a signal from connman when it "completed" a scan)? > - resume doesn't turn on the screen lights -> one knows it's resumed > only by touching the screen Will try to hook into the signal and set the back-light to 70. > - GPRS settings: if one by accident clicks 'username', 'APN', or > 'password' instead of Connect, one actually has to re-type it because > the 'back' button doesn't work. On it. > - There's nothing (no text/button) telling one should click in the > black area to get to phonebook to select recipient in 'msgs' -> '+' or > 'Tele' Should it get a grey fill when no number is entered? Or an icon? > - Slow boot time (over 4min with Qi?) > - the alsastatefile (kurppa.fi/freerunner/temp/gsmhandset.state_2009t3 > with Right PGA on control.63) is different from the latest 'working > one' (with mic2) at > http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new > > ¤ How to connect to a hidden WLAN network? How about encryptions? WPA,WEP and WPA2 should be handled correctly. This should also cover 90% of all cases. I would love to have a more complete interface for wifi, but am afraid I won't have the time. If there is anyone who wants to adopt the whole wifi settings part (is only one py file) let me know and I'll get him/her git access along with all the help I can provide. Any care-taker? The same goes for any settings option you want to work on. It should be fairly easy to get into that part of paroli and a good way to get into the rest as well ;) > ¤ The numbers in the home view showing missed calls or received > messages could be bigger/colorful/something or even say 'one missed > call' or 'new SMS received' > ¤ At some stage I saw the : in the time blinking, then it stopped. I > think it either should blink or not but not keep changing what it does > (without telling me what does it mean :) Sorry, that is the old way of setting the time and alarm. I will disable that. > ¤ Is there a way to enable illume from command line? Angus answered that I believe, but why not use the setting in Display - > profile in paroli settings? > ¤ Icon that's shown before GSM network registration doesn't tell me > anything. What does it actually represent? It is supposed to mean not connected ;) > ¤ The only place where I was able to find colors was the yellow flash > in the battery icon when recharging. Using colors in other places too > would maybe do it easier to use? > ¤ With hundreds of phone numbers it'd be great to be able to type at > least the first letter, or two-three to be able to find the Agreed search function would be nice...no sure how to implement that. > ¤ I got many 'can't init topbar/wlan/...' -messages telling that > something failed (only on the first start) Some services are only usable after the second boot. Rule of thumb, always boot Om2009 twice after flashing ;) > ¤ The date doesn't need the | -bars in the home view: it's | Sunday, > May 10, 2009 | - the bars just make it more difficult to read > ¤ Does paroli (already / in the future?) support icons in the menus? > Either so that there would be a icon grid or like now but every line > would have a small icon just to make it easier to use > ¤ GPRS settings: Should the password be hidden? (I don't know if > anyone is really interested in GPRS passwords..) Yeah, I don't think there is too many secrets about that, anyone any objections to showing it? > ¤ GPRS settings: maybe APN should be 'internet' by default, I think > it's the most common APN? > ¤ GPRS settings: I'd recommend reordering the items so that the > connect would be first or last in the list. I will redo parts of the settings app and classes so that ordering is possible and meant to ask the list which order is most useful :) > ¤ I/O really doesn't tell for a normal people that it's actually the call > log.. > ¤ Msgs could be replaced with SMS, if something short has to be used > ¤ Tele also doesn't make sense, I'd suggest using 'Dialer' > ¤ How do I use the alarm? How do I change the time when to alert? Not quite there yet ;) > ¤ Maybe also reordering the main menu so that the phone log would not > be the first one? Falls into the "fix later" category, but is on my list :) > ¤ At some stage my FR just decided not to resume any more > ¤ After the 10min call the UI died, I wasn't able to press any > buttons, nothing happened. Then after waiting some minutes it started > running again. Still the top left shows '100' instead of default or > silent.. Got logs for that one? Thanks again for your thorough review this really helps. Regards, /mirko _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community