Hi! DISCLAIMER: I really appreciate E-developers, and I think E* stuff is really nice, modern, elegant and powerful, my assumptions were born after googling, reading mailing list archives, digging a bit in the Illume code and coding some fr applications. For sure I missed a lot and I'm not an X11 guru, so I may be wrong in some of all points I'm going to illustrate!
I noted some things: *) it does not support some window manager hints (trying to close, toggle fullscreen etc from an external application e.g wmctrl) does not work *) " standard systray (I know this is a very hot and boring topic, and it will supported when and if the specification will be fixed) *) " docking windows, so any workaround for running trayers (or any other dock window) etc. is unuseful *) the config dialogs often does not fit well on the screen (or at least out of box) *) some not so important issues Many of those have workarounds: *) to close a fullscreen window, toggle fullscreen, etc you may to bind aux or power button to some illume actions (for eg. system control menu), but freerunner has only two keys so I'd like to not waste them and bind one to an auxiliary application that will show an utility menu that let you click on "toggle fullscreen, close, kill, etc." with wm hints *) to have systrayicon-like you are forced to write some E gadget, that's nice for new applications and for developers using E stuff, but not for existing applications or guys using different toolkits About docking I do not know any workaround (the only one was patching illume to force a fake virtual keyboard to be always showed, but it's just an experiment), and IMHO them may be very usefull for some tasks. Suppose for example a gps app that show a 480x64 permanent dock window on the bottom of the display with satellites, speed, etc, while you are able to switch between other applications. About config menus I do not know if that's only a matter of theming or some code rewriting. As it *seems* (note: seems!) that illume development was a bit slowed down when some e-guys left openmoko, I'd like to have some clarifications about it's development status/roadmap and about the process of SHR/OM2009 defacto standard adoption, as this may influences the meaning of the "stable" upcoming releases and their flexibility. Please do not STONITH me I want only to understand better how things are going in this exciting world and be corrected where I'm wrong :) Best Regards Nicola _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community