On 9/2/09, Leonti Bielski <[email protected]> wrote: > So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? > For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses > some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then > obm could import new data and everyone would be happy. > > Leonti > > Leonti > > On 9/2/09, Thomas Landspurg <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello Risto, >> >> Here is a few facts from such FAQ: >> >> Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the >> 'untrusted ones') >> >> One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID >> provides a complete access to the data and the measures. >> >> OpenCellId added a "CVS uploader" to import bulk CSV data files >> mainly to be compatible with the OpenBMap logger. I just don't have >> any OpenMoko phone to test it. >> >> I've been out of the mailing list from some time because I am not >> involved in the OpenMoko community (I am more involved in J2ME and >> others platforms), but I would be happy to reactivate the integration >> effort. Since the beginning, OpenCellID was focused on collecting the >> data and not writing clients for all platforms. I would be happy to >> support the OpenBMap client and do some modifications if needed. >> Regarding CellHunter, I would ba happy also to work on an >> integration. We had some early discussion, but I'll try to reactivate >> them. >> Regards, >> >> 2009/9/2 Risto H. Kurppa <[email protected]>: >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra<[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ? >>> >>> I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in >>> FAQ's >>> :) >>> >>> CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html >>> and http://www.opkg.org/package_175.html (and repositories?) >>> OpenBMap: 479584 cells of which 82842 are 'trusted'*, client: >>> http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html (and repositories) >>> OpenCellID: 433459 cells, clients: >>> http://www.opencellid.org/users/staticShow/download >>> >>> * trusted means it's collected via OpenBMap project, not imported from >>> other projects. >>> >>> AFAIK, CellHunter is a competition (teams/individuals against each >>> other) on collecting cells as OpenBmap&OpenCellID - well, you just >>> collect the cells. >>> AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects >>> AFAIK, OpenBmap was started because of different views about important >>> data to collect between OpenCellID and OpenBMap devels. >>> >>> To me the whole thing is a big mess. Do we really need three projects. >>> Let me bet, they all are now working on tools to use their own data to >>> find the position of a phone, right? >>> >>> 1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj >>> cellhunter cells? >>> 2) AFAIK There are no tools to benefit from the collected data yet >>> 3) Can't see a OpenCellID client for Freerunner >>> >>> I earlier tried CellHunter, didn't work. For me OpenBmap is just >>> easiest to use. Which doesn't necessarily make it the best one of >>> these three to contribute to. They call the diversity a richness of >>> Open Source. Can't really see it here. >>> >>> r
When I tried Cellhunter (in early stage of its development), it didn't feel so bullet-proof and stable, and I noticed I was collecting points for invalid data which happened sometimes. And when moving, clicking "update" constanly was giving me always 1 point more, and offline mode wasn't so usable, so I had to colllect cells during GPRS connection, which wasn't so stable these days. Maybe it changed now (well, i would be supriced if it didn't :P), but openBmap client, data and website just feel better, and most of important FSO and SHR devs are using openBmap to collect cells - that's good enough recomendation to me ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
