On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 21:34 +0100, David Lanzendörfer wrote: > Would be nice, if it could become a new development platform for OM/SHR too. > > Are there some development boards to get? > > With JTAG interface and so on? > > And a documentation for writing free drivers for the linux kernel? > > Using android kernel is not an option, because they put the mostpart of > theire > drivers into the apache licensed userspace. In binary format. > > So the basic idea of opensource handies is died in android, because the linux > kernel cant support the hardware on its own, theres alway a binary compatible > android userspace needed to have the devices working properly. > > I hope, if they call theire phone "geeky" then they are also open to sell > developmentboards and documentation. > If they dont. Then the word geeky is a lie and we could even call a htc-raph > or other windows-ce generation handies geeky. > Then we can call every ** smartphone geeky. Because they are all hackable in > someway... > > So please ask them to inform about development boards on theire page. > They dont have to make UMTS/GSM open, its clear that they cant, but the rest > of the pcb and schematics they could give us in a documentation, so that some > smart linux kernel hackers could write some drivers in the propriate section > (Board, CPU, Devices) > > Something which the Android developers didnt manage to do either. > Theire drivers are sooo ugly. > This time, the development should start from our site. > Linux shouldnt have only BIOS function, but should have the user and kernel > space consequently separated. > Lets do it on our own, an we are sure, that it will be respected. > We can certainly do it better then proprietary enterprises and google. > > regards leviathan If you are looking for such phone maybe the htcdream(I know you're doing some work on the htcdream)is not a good option(but it's great if you want to learn about the internals...because there is some work to do) Some candidates are: *Omap Zoom II ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OmapZoom ) *Exeda mobile ( http://www.exedamobile.com/web/ ) *The flow ( http://www.gizmoforyou.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.32 ) *future openmoko phones(like gta02-core and/or the one from the University of São Paulo in Brasil )
Maybe there are others that I have forgotten. The palm pre is a different case as the modem doesn't fully work yet ( http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Palm_Pre_Challenge ) Denis. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community