On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Al Johnson <[email protected]>wrote:
> On Thursday 17 December 2009, Brolin Empey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > I am using QtMoko v14. AFAIK, QtMoko does not support GSM multiplexing, > > which means even if I had a working and usable Web browser for QtMoko, I > > could not use telephony functionality, such as making and receiving phone > > calls, while GPRS is enabled. If I wanted to have Internet access on my > > FreeRunner, what is the least-hassle method of getting a usable Web > browser > > + telephony and SMS support while GPRS is enabled? Am I better off > finding > > a usable proprietary phone? > > Since you've already got the phone you may as well give the other firmware > options a try. We keep finding people have different definitions of > 'usable' > so you'll have to see what suits you. > > SHR should be easy to try, and is supposed to do everything you want. > There's > a GUI for the GPRS config. It has multiplexing so GPRS, SMS and telephony > should work together (I say should as I haven't tried GPRS recently.) > Midori > might be a suitable browser, although there is a problematic interaction > between the illume keyboard and midori's address autocompletion at the > moment. > > There are other browsers in the SHR feeds so if you don't like Midori you can replace it, some worth mentioning is Eve, Links/Links-x11, Dillo use to be in the feeds but don't know why the one from opkg.org wouldn't work. Debian or hackable:1 may be worth a try too. They have a wider selection of > browsers available, but I don't know the status of the telephony side. > > > Please do not suggest the iPhone because until > > the iPhone 3GS was released, Apple refused to accept my money even though > I > > wanted their product: the only way to buy a new iPhone in Canada from a > > store was to sign a 3-year term contract with Rogers or Fido. That is > > illogical. If I want Apple’s product, Apple should sell it to me. I do > > not want to sign a 3-year term contract. I have no term contract with > my > > Fido monthly plan. With Rogers, I would have had to sign at least a > > 1-year term contract, pay a 1-time activation fee plus a System Access > Fee > > every month. I still had to pay a 1-time activation fee with Fido, but I > > do not pay any System Access Fee nor did I have to sign a term contract. > > Anyway, I decided I am not buying an iPhone because I do not want to > > encourage Apple to not sell their products to consumers, such as me, who > > can afford them but do not want to sign a 3-year term contract. Why > would > > I want to develop an application for a device (the iPhone) no one in > > Canada can buy new from a store without signing a 3-year service > > agreement? My users would have to jailbreak their iPhone just to use my > > app because Apple wants control over their platform. I do not want an > > iPod Touch because then I still need a separate phone. I already used > to > > have a separate phone and PDA. I want less devices to always carry with > > me, not more. Anyway, I know this post has turned into a rant about the > > iPhone. I think if I had to choose a proprietary phone, I would be > > limited to non-Android Linux phones because I want the same OS on my > phone > > as on my PCs, which run Ubuntu and Windows NT (Vista, but it is still > > Windows NT, not Windows.), not iPhone OS, Symbian OS, Windows CE/Windows > > Mobile/Pocket PC/whatever it is called now because Microsoft loves > > renaming things, BlackBerry stains, or some other crappy, ephemeral, and > > proprietary OS used on only 1 type of computer (cell phones and/or > PDAs). > > Windows NT does not run on ARM even though modern embedded computers are > > more powerful than the desktop computers Windows NT originally ran on. > > Ubuntu is based on Debian, which runs on the FreeRunner, so QtMoko/plain > > Debian it is. I do not want to start an Android rant, but let’s just > say > > I am avoiding Android because it is non-standard, > > proprietary, uses Java (I hate Java because it is gross.) and is hyped by > > the same people who hype Java: non-programmers who do not even use it. > > > > Thanks, > > Brolin > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >
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