I might be the other person who likes the bezel. It's a little too close to the 
screen, but it prevents the screen from accidental scratches and misclicks. The 
resistive screen is quite soft, and I'd be afraid to put it face-down on uneven 
surfaces or put it in my pocket in fear that the screen changes shape 
permanently.
If it was a capacitative touchscreen, I would prefer no bezel.

To answer the original question: I think I wouldn't buy a phone without a 
physical keyboard again. My main phone use is messages, so tactile feedback 
makes me many times faster and less frustrated.

Cheers,
rhn

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:14:35 -0400
Benjamin Deering <ben_deer...@swissmail.org> wrote:

> I would pre-order in the $300 us range.  500 euro is a little steep for 
> a board with no case, speakers, touch screen, etc.
> 
> It seems like the biggest problems on the GTA-02 were all with closed 
> modules (wifi, glamo, calypso).  It sounds like a UMTS module would have 
> to be closed, but if it were loosely coupled to the device (4 usb traces 
> and an antenna) I think we could work with it.
> 
> Since my FR is getting better all the time (2.6.32 speedups have been 
> great, thanks) I can wait quite a while for a replacement.  I can't 
> imaging using a closed phone now.
> 
> I may be the only person who likes the screen bezel on the freerunner.  
> I have taken my phone on canoeing and backpacking trips just wrapped in 
> a dry-bag and only cracked one screen (which is how I ended up with a 
> second phone).
> 
> As for expansion ports, an internal usb hub and some solder pads would 
> probably meet my needs.  I would think the new device would need a 
> second usb controller anyways (one in host mode for UMTS and internal 
> expansion, one in gadget/host mode with an external connector).
> 
> Ben
> 
> On 08/15/2010 06:06 AM, Ed Kapitein wrote:
> > Hi Nikolaus,
> >
> > I would prefer pre orders to finance the next FR.
> > and with a discount for the pre-order i think it is possible to raise
> > the money for the development.
> > lets say 400 Euro with pre-order and 500 euro without pre ordering?
> >
> > I might be one of the people who will preorder.
> > ( or just buy a 50 euro nokia... :-) )
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Ed
> >
> > On 08/13/2010 07:18 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> >    
> >>>
> >>>        
> >> Am 13.08.2010 um 12:35 schrieb Neil Brown:
> >>
> >>
> >>      
> >>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:22:02 +0200
> >>> "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller"<h...@computer.org>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>        
> >>>> Am 12.08.2010 um 14:12 schrieb RANJAN:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When is the next and more powerful openmoko (capable of seamless 3D 
> >>>>> video and faster processor) is going to be released???
> >>>>>
> >>>>>            
> >>>> Assume, you could get a motherboard upgrade board that fits into the 
> >>>> Freerunner (or Neo1973) case. Based on the TI OMAP3 SoC (OMAP3530 or 
> >>>> DM3730) and UMTS.
> >>>>
> >>>> Let me ask two questions to everybody:
> >>>> * How long could you be willing to wait for it to really become 
> >>>> available?
> >>>> * How much would you think you could afford to pay for such a board?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>> Is there a serious possibility of this?
> >>>
> >>>        
> >> I wasn't open enough, intentionally :) Yes, there is a serious possibility.
> >>
> >> The Openmoko Beagle Hybrid Board is a first step for those who want to be 
> >> early participants of this new era.
> >>
> >> In addition, we (a small project team in Munich, Germany) have mostly 
> >> finished our homework (i.e. doing prototypes and experiments like the OM 
> >> Beagle Hybrid, doing PCB layout) to be sure that it *can* be done. Really 
> >> building such boards will still cost a significant amount of money (for 
> >> paying components, professional PCB manufacturing and SMD soldering) and 
> >> time (therefore: my question how long you would wait).
> >>
> >>
> >>      
> >>> I'm willing to wait a couple of years at least.  And the 500 Euro number 
> >>> that
> >>>
> >>>        
> >> It will definitively not take several years.
> >>
> >>
> >>      
> >>> people are throwing around seems OK.
> >>>
> >>>        
> >> To finance the next phase, we are thinking about asking for donations or 
> >> to hold an auction for the first 5 or 10 prototype units. What would you 
> >> think of such an approach?
> >>
> >>
> >>      
> >>> Would this be re-using the case, display and touch screen and replacing
> >>> everything else?
> >>>
> >>>        
> >> Yes, that is the idea. More information (e.g. complete feature list) and 
> >> openness (as suggested by arne anka) is to come soon. Please watch out for 
> >> announcements in the next couple of weeks...
> >>
> >> Nikolaus
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