I might be the other person who likes the bezel. It's a little too close to the screen, but it prevents the screen from accidental scratches and misclicks. The resistive screen is quite soft, and I'd be afraid to put it face-down on uneven surfaces or put it in my pocket in fear that the screen changes shape permanently. If it was a capacitative touchscreen, I would prefer no bezel.
To answer the original question: I think I wouldn't buy a phone without a physical keyboard again. My main phone use is messages, so tactile feedback makes me many times faster and less frustrated. Cheers, rhn On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:14:35 -0400 Benjamin Deering <ben_deer...@swissmail.org> wrote: > I would pre-order in the $300 us range. 500 euro is a little steep for > a board with no case, speakers, touch screen, etc. > > It seems like the biggest problems on the GTA-02 were all with closed > modules (wifi, glamo, calypso). It sounds like a UMTS module would have > to be closed, but if it were loosely coupled to the device (4 usb traces > and an antenna) I think we could work with it. > > Since my FR is getting better all the time (2.6.32 speedups have been > great, thanks) I can wait quite a while for a replacement. I can't > imaging using a closed phone now. > > I may be the only person who likes the screen bezel on the freerunner. > I have taken my phone on canoeing and backpacking trips just wrapped in > a dry-bag and only cracked one screen (which is how I ended up with a > second phone). > > As for expansion ports, an internal usb hub and some solder pads would > probably meet my needs. I would think the new device would need a > second usb controller anyways (one in host mode for UMTS and internal > expansion, one in gadget/host mode with an external connector). > > Ben > > On 08/15/2010 06:06 AM, Ed Kapitein wrote: > > Hi Nikolaus, > > > > I would prefer pre orders to finance the next FR. > > and with a discount for the pre-order i think it is possible to raise > > the money for the development. > > lets say 400 Euro with pre-order and 500 euro without pre ordering? > > > > I might be one of the people who will preorder. > > ( or just buy a 50 euro nokia... :-) ) > > > > Kind regards, > > Ed > > > > On 08/13/2010 07:18 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > > >>> > >>> > >> Am 13.08.2010 um 12:35 schrieb Neil Brown: > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:22:02 +0200 > >>> "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller"<h...@computer.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Am 12.08.2010 um 14:12 schrieb RANJAN: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> When is the next and more powerful openmoko (capable of seamless 3D > >>>>> video and faster processor) is going to be released??? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Assume, you could get a motherboard upgrade board that fits into the > >>>> Freerunner (or Neo1973) case. Based on the TI OMAP3 SoC (OMAP3530 or > >>>> DM3730) and UMTS. > >>>> > >>>> Let me ask two questions to everybody: > >>>> * How long could you be willing to wait for it to really become > >>>> available? > >>>> * How much would you think you could afford to pay for such a board? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Is there a serious possibility of this? > >>> > >>> > >> I wasn't open enough, intentionally :) Yes, there is a serious possibility. > >> > >> The Openmoko Beagle Hybrid Board is a first step for those who want to be > >> early participants of this new era. > >> > >> In addition, we (a small project team in Munich, Germany) have mostly > >> finished our homework (i.e. doing prototypes and experiments like the OM > >> Beagle Hybrid, doing PCB layout) to be sure that it *can* be done. Really > >> building such boards will still cost a significant amount of money (for > >> paying components, professional PCB manufacturing and SMD soldering) and > >> time (therefore: my question how long you would wait). > >> > >> > >> > >>> I'm willing to wait a couple of years at least. And the 500 Euro number > >>> that > >>> > >>> > >> It will definitively not take several years. > >> > >> > >> > >>> people are throwing around seems OK. > >>> > >>> > >> To finance the next phase, we are thinking about asking for donations or > >> to hold an auction for the first 5 or 10 prototype units. What would you > >> think of such an approach? > >> > >> > >> > >>> Would this be re-using the case, display and touch screen and replacing > >>> everything else? > >>> > >>> > >> Yes, that is the idea. More information (e.g. complete feature list) and > >> openness (as suggested by arne anka) is to come soon. Please watch out for > >> announcements in the next couple of weeks... > >> > >> Nikolaus > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Openmoko community mailing list > >> community@lists.openmoko.org > >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community