On Sunday 21 August 2011 10:34:54 Johannes Schauer wrote: > @nikolaus: thanks again for this wonderful update on the progress! Let > me just reiterate (just as many of the previous posts to this list > already did) how incredibly awesome it is to be kept up to date with the > development status in this amount of detail! +1 from me ;-)
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 09:58:29PM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > a) working (hardware and linux drivers are available): <cut long feature list> > > b) works but quality is unclear: <cut 2 issues...> > > c) flaws (not easily fixable without running a new board layout): <... and a couple more> > > d) not tested (mainly because Linux drivers are missing and/or not > > properly configured): <cut lots of features; "extra's", apart from UMTS voice> > (...) It would be great if the early adopter boards > had at least confirmed that a working audio path to the modem is only a > software issue. > > (...) And for UMTS, there are some proprietary > > AT commands where we need the written permission to > > publish them. Unfortunately, two of the commands are very > > nice to make UMTS networking simple and to enable the > > Voice PCM path. That seems technically a smaller problem than a software issue, and seems to imply that there is no hardware issue? Such a pity NDA's can have such an influence :-( Concluding I can only agree with Josch: there's a lot to play with, there seems to be more there already in this EA board than there was in the GTA02. I also agree that voice calls would be nice, so that I might actually replace my day-to-day motherboard instead of the testing one. > > 4. Kernel Drivers > > > > So we need your help. I.e. your Linux expertise and willingness > > to learn new things together with us. Mainly to develop the missing > > Linux kernel drivers and interfaces. And port new Userland code. > > > > Therefore, we decided to build all remaining EA Boards next week > > despite some flaws and untested areas. Haha, it sounds like: thanks for enjoying the ride so far, and now to work! After months of anticipation, this news is quite exciting, with or without voice calls. > > Two areas are still in negotiation with the chip manufacturers. > maybe there is the chance to get those commands from some pdf hosted on > a chinese server? No matter how: NDA is NDA. It's difficult to open up without permission from those who have the official key, even if there are shaded workarounds. Brute forcing sounds daunting to me: I guess we're not only dealing with proprietary AT commands, but with a sequence as well. > > Where we need more Kernel Expertise for testing the final bits > > of the hardware: > Hopefully people from the community with enough expertise and free time > show up for these tasks. Sadly I must admit I'm lacking the former :/ Well, there was no "I'm no kernel-dummy"-agreement when I ordered mine, just the warning. Time to start building expertise, but lacking time as well (other languages got different words for points in time and periods of time ;-) ) > > David has got his GTA04 right for Chaos Communication Camo > > (did you meet him?) > cheers david! hope everything goes well! Do your best! > Btw, what is the status of arm in linux? I recently skimmed some news > about the apparent mess that arm is in the kernel due to the many > different boards out there. This probably means that upstreaming gta04 > changes will not be possible until a solution to this is found? Is it not because of different options used in different flavours of arm? I remember reading that the situation was improving, but if someone with more actual knowledge could elaborate: welcome! > > 6. Questions? > > Please ask us what you ever wanted to know about the GTA04 > > but were afraid to ask... > So, yeah: only pressing question right now: will the gta04 early adopter > board have the ability to make a working phone call or could there exist > a potential hardware blocker avoiding it? I thought I had some questions, but between starting to write and being interrupted far too often by children running around, they slipped my mind. Once again: keep up the good work and thanks for the update! Boudewijn PS: I received some openmoko-list-messages, so I added them as a receipient in case the servers are up again. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community