Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli <[email protected]> wrote: > * there was an abandoned port of nuttx, [...]
Before we can have any meaningful discourse on the relative merits of various options, we first need to be on an equal footing. Right now we are not. At the present moment there exist two massive inequalities in the Openmoko community: 1. Certain long-time members of this community are holding possession of some things which newcomers like me have no way of obtaining. Specifically, the TSM30 source that used to be on SourceForge. It is not fair for the old-timers to be sitting on that ware and not sharing with the newcomers. 2. I am quite certain that at least some ex-Om engineering employees have taken copies of the "real" Calypso FW semi-source home with them when their employment ended. Please don't tell me they haven't, everybody does that. Almost certainly in violation of their employment contract with FIC/Om - but again, *everybody* does that. (If someone feels like objecting to the last statement, I change it to almost everybody - there you have it.) There is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of in that, and I admit to it publicly. But the difference is that I share: if I have taken something home from a past employer, and someone else emails me and says s/he wants a copy of it, I readily share with that person. For those of you out there who are sitting on a personal copy of the Calypso fw source or semi-source (I *know* you are out there, very likely right here on this mailing list), your non-sharing is morally wrong. If you are so obsessed about legalities, i.e., if you believe that it would be illegal for me to have that ware, I am almost certain that it's just as illegal for you to have it: your employment contract with FIC/Om almost certainly did not allow you to take it home with you after you are done. So why not do the morally Right Thing and share with your brothers and sisters? If there is anyone out there reading this who accepts my moral argument, but is afraid of getting caught, there are plenty of ways to remain anonymous. I never disclose the identify of anyone who contributes stuff to my public archive. And if you don't feel like trusting me in that manner, there are plenty of ways you can do it such that I have no idea of your identify either. For example, you could email the ware to [email protected] from some anonymous webmail account which you access from a public Wifi hotspot a good distance away from where you live. > you could try to cross compile it for running it on the ARM samsung > SOC... I assume that running GSM Layer 1 on the Calypso, Layers 2&3 on the AP would require that both the Calypso and the AP stay on continuously, neither of them going into any kind of sleep mode, wouldn't it? That would not be practically usable. > did you try already to make a call with it? I have no hardware to try it on: my GTA02 from Golden Delicious has yet to arrive, my existing ancient phone (Mot V66) uses a totally different chipset, and I haven't yet got around to buying an old Calypso-based phone from Ebay/etc. (The latter is going to be made more difficult by a lot of those phones being GSM 900/1800 only AFAICT. The only coverage I can get is GSM1900.) MS _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
