Hi Joerg, Ed, I think you are both completely right. I think this is again an example (and explanation) why Openmoko.org (not .com) IMHO needs a (new) formal organization. And as Ed suggests. some people are simply assuming that it exists and jOERG is some executing member of it.
If we had such an organization, there would really be someone to blame for. Or to demand something from the organization, if you are member. So those people who have been elected (and accepted), accept that the community can demand that e.g. servers are kept in operation. And, if they do well, it is also very clear whom to compliment. I.e. it is not at all your fault or even responsibility. Nobody (except you) has elected you for that tasks. So you are completely right in rejecting such requests. I think, this community has to decide which sort of organization they would like to operate the infrastructure and decide who gets the hat to keep it running. The proposal/offer from Martix (Openmobility.org) is definitively to be considered (we probably need more details). So jOERG, if you come to LinuxTag as we have discussed, let's have a beer and discuss how to form some organization for Openmoko.org (and fix your GTA04). BR, Nikolaus (I was out of town for some days and have to work through the e-mail backlog) Am 06.05.2012 um 19:37 schrieb Ed Kapitein: > Whooo Joerg, > > take a beer! > I'm sure people are unaware of this, so it is good to explain it to them. > Don't take it personally, your help is really appreciated. > > Kind regards, > Ed > > On 05/06/2012 06:45 PM, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: >> openmoko inc. isn't handling anything openmoko.org related, since ages. >> A detail constantly ignored in all this debate. >> Please note that all openmoko.org (incl me / my mail addr) is no longer >> directly associated to openmoko.com and openmoko inc. >> >> I'm actually thoroughly fed up with getting bitched at like I was a first >> level helpdesk drone or CR-representative. I'm not going to answer any more >> to >> guys *demanding* things from me and accusing me of whatever weird mindset >> when >> I don't feel like jumping when they instruct me "jump". >> I've been in to help, in my spare time, on a voluntary basis. I'll reduce >> this >> engagement drastically, since it earns me bitching and reproaches, instead >> of >> at least appreciation or the satisfaction to feel I was able to help. >> >> /j >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
