the german magazine c't run an article in a recent issue about ubuntu phone/sailfish/tizen and identified as common denominator that all three cater to providers rather than end users (though those are the ones paying ...) -- ie whatever _potential_ freedom exists with those platforms will most likely _realize_ to only a very small extend, since providers are not interested in freedom uf use but their revenue, meaning they will limit choices and lock the system. and without either one of the three providing their own hardware, the have no means (if they're interested at all, whcih is rather unlikely) to prevent that.

although such lock will be probably broken in no time, it means that you're not better off than with an android or even ios device ...

On 02/10/2013 06:10 PM, Peter Viskup wrote:
Have you watched this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU
How do they get this speed on the screen? Do they use something else
than X11? There is also not mutch technical background information at
Ubuntu's pages http://www.ubuntu.com/

    matthias

Hi Matthias,
it's just marketing video - doesn't mean it will respond on every HW so quickly. ;-) But it's great to see they will come with 'revolution' gesture control on the screen. In opposite Firefox OS will be just another 'standard' mobile OS. Hope at least one (I bet for Firefox OS) of them will be completely open source and will not require any account to be registered somewhere.
Anybody already tried Firefox OS on GTA02/04?
Just to let you know - Android could be used w/o any registration and without any vendor-locked components. Unfortunately it is more exception, then case - many chipset vendors are not opening driver sources, especially for modem and OpenGL hw. I am not expecting anything very different with Ubuntu OS - it is hardware vendor policy and there is no way to prevent this from from OS vendor. And yes, i didnt mention fact that every device do have closed source GSM stack, what making much more problems for privacy then, for example, closed source video driver. And again, Firefox OS, Android or QTMoko will not solve this issue (



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