On Wed 03 April 2013 15:49:02 joerg Reisenweber wrote: > On Wed 03 April 2013 15:36:13 Alexander Lehner wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2013, pike wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > >>>>> Fairphone aims ... supply chain for conflict minerals, poor > > >>>>> working conditions or environmental destruction > > >>> > > >>> The Neo FreeRunner is a Linux-based touch screen smart phone > > >>> ultimately aimed at general consumer use (...) > > >>> will appreciate the total freedom they have to use and design > > >>> software for the FreeRunner. > > >> > > >> Two completely different philosophies at work with little common > > >> ground. > > > > > > exactly. i couldnt even find whats running on > > > the fairphone - probably stock closed android. > > > > > > it could be a selling point for openmoko to > > > be green (and slaveless) too, though. I've > > > never heard anyone about it on the list. > > > > Is I already posted earlier on this list, there is already a 'fair' > > product, a simple mouse, and it's ready to buy: > > > > http://www.nager-it.de/maus > > > > A mouse of that simplenes and design is usually given away as goodie if > > you are on a fair (exhibition). > > > > The price for the fair mouse starts at 30 EUR with 'upgrade' packages for > > a 3rd mousebutton etc... > > > > So the 'fair' production costs are about 10x higher. > > Hard to believe that someone buys a phone that costs 3000 EUR, > > > > Seeing this before the background, that geeks like us - which are usually > > willing to spent more money than necessary for toys - are unable to > > finance Nikolaus GTA project. > > > > A. > > Add to that the fact(?, rather suspicion) that the electronic components in > that fair mouse are still NOT fair production, since it would be impossible > to get chips produced from fair rare earth etc in a volume needed for > those few hundred mice. > I don't think *anybody* has bothered to produce "fair" chips (silicone) so > far, since it's near impossible and would make chips like 30* to 100* as > expensive if it could be done, due to low volumes asked.
see http://www.nager-it.de/maus/umsetzung Amazingly they were able to source a few "fair" elcos, capacitors, resistors, switches. According to this, probably gta04 is also "fair" /j -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community