Am 06.10.2013 um 08:42 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > Hi Bob, > > Am 05.10.2013 um 12:12 schrieb Bob Ham: > >> On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 07:50 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> >>> Neither the Openmoko, OpenPandora, Ubuntu Edge, GTA04 are >>> "open hardware" - and never were intended to be. >> >> That isn't what your OpenPhoenux page says: >> >> "Open Hardware Devices. >> >> Letux 2804 / GTA04 Smartphone" >> >> http://www.openphoenux.org/ > > Am 05.10.2013 um 20:10 schrieb Martin Jansa: > >> Using "open-hardware-but-without-CAD-files" is maybe less misleading for >> people who has great understanding of all free/open definitions used in >> the world (and wikipedia), but also more misleading for "normal" people. > > Can you agree on the following? > > 1. you are talking about "open SOURCE hardware" (which I call "free hardware") > > http://www.ohanda.org/ = "Open Source Hardware and Design Alliance" > > 2. OpenPhoenux was and is never claiming to be open SOURCE hardware > (like Openmoko, OpenPandora, Ubuntu Edge, RasPi [1], ... never did) > > And some organizations fostering open SOURCE hardware and free hardware > are falsely recognized (e.g. by media) to cover ANY open hardware? > > -- hns > > [1]: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=45583&p=360559
PS: I have found an old definition of "Open Hardware" from 1999. IMHO well thought and interesting to read... http://www.opencollector.org/Whyfree/definitions.html http://www.opencollector.org/Whyfree/ If we had known this before, we could have saved this long flamewar. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community