Hi Paul,
... Another is actually > being able to buy these devices after their normal retail life has > effectively > ended, at least from reputable suppliers. > Yes, Maemo Leste is currently developed for devices that are currently not anymore in production. (...) > I used to browse the Maemo forums and there seemed to be plenty of > projects > that never went anywhere, so I hope that this isn't one of those. I see > that > it is a continuation of the "Livermorium" keyboard extension for Motorola > phones which, I think, did actually ship. > This project was actually cancelled (only a few devices actually shipped). The company (Chen) paid the money back to the backers. Personally, I am very skeptical about projects that promise lots of things > in > an opaque fashion, and the involvement of NDAs makes me particularly > skeptical. As far as I know most current smartphone vendors do not offer any documentation for their hardware. So this could already be a big step in the right direction. Others may have different impressions, perhaps because they know > the people involved and trust them, but I would encourage people to > support > projects that work in the open: there is already too much secrecy in > hardware > development. > > If these people actually come through and make a device, I'm sure that > those > making software can then consider whether it is a viable thing to support. > But > if I were in that position myself, I wouldn't commit to supporting > anything > where it seems that the process involved in making it doesn't really value > other people's involvement or input. > > Sorry to be negative about something which could end up being a good > thing! > And thanks for pointing it out, of course. > I of course understand your view on this device. In the meantime a lot happened and also a lot of information about the device is now available. It is called Pro1, will cost 650 $/650 £, will likely be sold in July 2019. This is the homepage: https://www.fxtec.com/ It was presented at Mobile World Congress and generated a lot of interest, see first TMO post in the "official" thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=100554&highlight=kernel . Some info is available about mainlining already: In this post Chen (who is one of the founders of the company) talks about mainlining the device: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1554693&postcount=846 "However mainlining the SoC is something new to me, and I need time to discover what we could help with the process. Wicket has provided some very valuable information about the direction, but I need some time to work out with the team the best way of moving forwards. I don't want to false promise things I am not 100% certain yet, but what I meant is I will support as much as I can, just as SFOS community port. And I need to find out how." In this post is stated, that this SOC is not so bad for mainlining: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1554483&postcount=721 -> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/log/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/msm8998.dtsi Another interesting post: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1554553&postcount=772 "... Back to topic, I will PM you separately about how we could contribute or work together on mainlining the SoC. It would certainly be a good direction not relying on Hybris." BR, Martin
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