Dear Abdulbaqi,

Well done job and as Dr Atwel said it is about time for someone to do it and I 
am sure it will lead to many interested and promising tools in the future.
My previous work involved Qur'an Retrieving, we had a stop-words list in 
addition to a light Arabic stemmer, and we also built a Qur'anic thesaurus. I 
will be very keen to see their effects on the presented Qur'anic Cloud if 
possible.

Regarding Bayan Shawar's answer, the most influencing parts in Clouds are the 
font size or style, I do not think the order has anything to do with it (for 
example, if we took more than one chapter “Sura” the order does not make any 
sense as the repetition is eliminated). In my opinion, the listing does not 
affect the Quran itself specially when it is unordered.

Best of luck,
Mahmoud

School of Computer Science and Electronic Engineering.
University of Essex.
Colchester CO4 3SQ, United Kingdom.
URL: http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~melhaj/




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bayan Shawar
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:16 PM
To: [email protected]; Abdulbaqi Sharaf
Subject: Re: word cloud for Qur'anic chapters

Salam Sharaf,
  This is me Bayan Abu Shawar if you still remember. In fact it is a good idea 
if you apply it in any Arabic corpus, but i am not sure what will be the aim of 
doing this to Qur'an? Ok you extract the content words but they are not appear 
in the same order as it in Qur'an, so it's like you extract content words from 
different souras and merge it together. may be i am not familiar with world 
cloud, but because it is Qur'an we should be careful. If the aim is to extract 
th content word, then for example see how these words are used nowadays in 
different Arabic corpra like media one, comparing language of Qur'an with other 
ones, and do other useful statistics, this will be good. I am just worry about 
the way result appear in the link u sent us, just because it is qur'an, may be 
you could presented in a different way. What do you think?

Good luck,
Bayan

--- On Sat, 23/1/10, Abdulbaqi Sharaf <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Abdulbaqi Sharaf <[email protected]>
> Subject: word cloud for Qur'anic chapters
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Saturday, 23 January, 2010, 16:29
> Hello,
> 
> I have implemented "word cloud" for Qur'anic surahs:
> http://www.textminingthequran.com/php/wordcloud.html
> 
> you can choose more than one Sura, and can consider only
> content words, the list of stop words is initial and should
> grow to more words in future, have a try and let me know
> your feedback..
> 
> best,
> 
> Abdul-Baquee M. Sharaf
> PhD Student
> Language Technologies Group
> School of Computing
> University of Leeds
> UK
> 


      


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