OP? FGS! Vc acha que ainda tem alguém aqui que sabe o que é um @OP? :-P

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2010/1/19 Carlos Lopes <[email protected]>

> Só o OP ainda não se manifestou :)
>
> [s]
> ttc
>
> 2010/1/19 Leonardo F. Borba <[email protected]>
>
> apesar de achar que das listas de exercicios para o projeto final foi um
>> salto muitissimo grande, eu não tenho do que reclamar, por que como foi dito
>> acima, eh interessante ter que correr atras das coisas!
>>
>> eu concordo com o marcus quando o assunto foi a modelagem do programa,
>> deveria ter sido melhor exemplificada! talvez ateh mesmo com projetos de
>> periodos anteriores, fica a sugestao.
>>
>> 2010/1/18 Peter P. Lupo <[email protected]>
>>
>> Quando o Zaedy entrou foi meu primeiro ano na monitoria... eu era monitor
>>> por bolsa. Depois durante o ano de crédito dele eu fiz outro ano de bolsa.
>>> Ele realmente já chegou sabendo bastante coisa e a ajuda dele na monitoria
>>> foi excelente.
>>>
>>> :¬)
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter P. Lupo
>>> MPS.BR Authorized Implementation Practitioner
>>> Certified ScrumMaster
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>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/1/18 Bruno Lírio <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> Hmm... muito bom!
>>>>
>>>> Abçs!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/1/18 Zaedy Sayão <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>> Eu passei pra UNIRIO e depois no outro ano passei pra UFRJ.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cursei 1 periodo e meio na UNIRIO, mas depois q passei pra UFRJ, fui
>>>>> pra la e nem fiz equivalencia de nenhuma materia nao, fiz todas novamente.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eu fiz comp2 sim (passei com 10 =P), fui monitor 1 ano por credito e
>>>>> depois 1 ano por bolsa e agora virei honorario igual ao Peter.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010 vai ser meu quarto ano envolvido com comp2.....hehe
>>>>>
>>>>> Mas java foi a primeira linguagem q aprendi, tirando pascal....hehe
>>>>>
>>>>> Eu fiz um curso de java aos 15 anos, entao quando entrei na facul ja
>>>>> sabia algumas coisas.
>>>>>
>>>>> []'s
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/1/18 Bruno Lírio <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>> Perai Zaedy, você fez o comp2? você faz Unirio ou transferiu pra UFRJ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Zaedy Sayão <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mas eh assim mesmo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nao tem como cobrir tudo e tudo q eh coberto nao tem como cobrir num
>>>>>>> nivel absurdo de profundidade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Um dos objs do projeto final eh q vcs aprendam coisas sozinhos mesmo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Marcus Leopoldino <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Respondendo ao Zaedy, acho as três coisas,
>>>>>>>> a última lista foi fácil, pq aprender a mexer no eclipse é bem mais
>>>>>>>> fácil q aprender java, rs, mas mesmo assim foi importante.
>>>>>>>> Acho q deveria ter tido mais listas mesmo, p cobrir outros assuntos,
>>>>>>>> aí, o projeto final, q eu achei bem difícil, talvez ficasse mais fácil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aí toca em outro assunto tbm, achei q alguns tópicos que foram
>>>>>>>> essenciais pro trabalho foram muito pouco vistos em sala, 
>>>>>>>> principalmente o
>>>>>>>> jeito certo de fazer a modelagem MVC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> abs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> marcus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Zaedy Sayão <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vc acha q a ultima lista foi superficial demais ou q deveria ter
>>>>>>>>> mais uma lista cobrindo os ultimos assuntos ou q o projeto final q foi
>>>>>>>>> dificil?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Marcus Leopoldino <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ótimo, vou dar minha opinião também:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> acho que as aulas no laboratório deveriam ser mais práticas, com
>>>>>>>>>> mais exercícios, afinal, é praticando que a gente aprende.
>>>>>>>>>> Senti falta disso com os últimos assuntos da disciplina, pois não
>>>>>>>>>> sabia muito bem como experimentar aquilo no ecipse, p ex. Aí, da 
>>>>>>>>>> última
>>>>>>>>>> lista de exercícios pro trabalho final foi um salto muito grande.
>>>>>>>>>> acho q é isso
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> abraço
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Zaedy Sayão <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nao so eh permitido como sempre pedimos pros alunos darem um
>>>>>>>>>>> feedback pra gente.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Vc nao precisa se preocupar quanto a criterio de avaliacao. Nesse
>>>>>>>>>>> ponto (claro q vc nao espera q diga o contrario, mas realmente eh 
>>>>>>>>>>> verdade)
>>>>>>>>>>> os monitores e o professor sao bem isentos, ate pq sua nota ja deve 
>>>>>>>>>>> ter sido
>>>>>>>>>>> lancada =P
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> De sua opiniao, mostrando pontes fortes e fracos, dizendo o q
>>>>>>>>>>> melhorar e afins. So assim o curso pode melhorar, escutando quem ja 
>>>>>>>>>>> fez.
>>>>>>>>>>> Ninguem melhor pra falar sobre o curso do q os alunos :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  2010/1/18 Eduardo Neves <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Então,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> se eu fosse permitido (e não fosse alterar minha nota =P) eu
>>>>>>>>>>>> gostaria de dar algumas opiniões sobre a forma como foi abordada a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> matéria
>>>>>>>>>>>> de comp2 no período passado.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Grato,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eduardo Neves
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