Vários critérios... se sabe os pré-requisitos, prazo para se formar, se já
estagia, se fez comp2 (no caso pelo curso ser de Java), o interesse do aluno
no curso...
Impossível 500 terem se inscrito... o curso tem quase isso de alunos.... ;-)

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2011/7/19 Augusto Vanderley <[email protected]>

> Não que ele tenha ligado, mas ele queria dar um curso para alunos da ufrj.
> Fazendo uma suposição: Qual critério ele usaria para escolher 50 dentre os
> 500 alunos que se inscreveram? o CR parece o mais óbvio para mim.
>
> Em 19 de julho de 2011 22:00, Peter P. Lupo <[email protected]> escreveu:
>
>>  Bom, este é um dos que liga pra isso. :-)
>>
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>> 2011/7/19 Augusto Vanderley <[email protected]>
>>
>>> Acho que nenhum, o professor falou q a média dos alunos da turma era CR 9
>>> pra cima.
>>>
>>> Em 19 de julho de 2011 08:08, Peter P. Lupo <[email protected]> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> E vc fez com quantos com cr abaixo de 7? como eu disse, há professores
>>>> que ligam pra isso mas muitos só usam como critério de classificação quando
>>>> não conhecem a pessoa.
>>>> On Jul 19, 2011 12:52 AM, "Augusto Vanderley" <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > Eu já consegui vaga em um curso de java dado pelo prof. Jonas
>>>> exclusivamente
>>>> > pelo meu CR ser (na época) 9.
>>>> >
>>>> > Em 19 de julho de 2011 00:44, Peter P. Lupo <[email protected]>
>>>> escreveu:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Não é não. É muito mais importante que as pessoas te conheçam e
>>>> confiem em
>>>> >> você. De uma forma geral é muito mais seguro para alguém escolher
>>>> para uma
>>>> >> atividade conjunta alguém que já se conhece do que alguém
>>>> referenciado por
>>>> >> um indicador qualquer, ainda mais CR que é extremamente artificial.
>>>> Todo
>>>> >> mundo sabe disso e são poucos os professores que ligam tanto pra isso
>>>> a
>>>> >> ponto de recusar uma oportunidade a alguém, ainda mais sabendo que a
>>>> pessoa
>>>> >> não vai decepcionar.
>>>> >> On Jul 18, 2011 11:41 PM, "Thiago Caldeira de Lima" <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > Valeu Peter vc é o kra, mas da pra contar no dedo quantos iguais a
>>>> vc tem
>>>> >> na
>>>> >> > ufrj. Só não dê falsas expectativas pra galera. Ter cr bom é
>>>> essencial.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > 2011/7/18 Vinícius Pontes <[email protected]>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Também acho que não pode desanimar por causa de CR baixo, senão eu
>>>> já
>>>> >> teria
>>>> >> >> dado /quit também.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Claro que eu preferia estar com CR bom, e pretendo recuperar o que
>>>> for
>>>> >> >> possível dele, é o que todos devem almejar... Mas ainda assim, o
>>>> >> desempenho
>>>> >> >> acadêmico abaixo da média não me impediu de conhecer muita gente
>>>> >> >> (networking) e estar apto pra algumas das oportunidades.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Nada aqui na faculdade é "preto no branco", cada caso é um caso.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> 2011/7/18 Peter P. Lupo <[email protected]>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Meu CR é menor que 5. Fui monitor por 2 anos, fiz iniciação
>>>> científica,
>>>> >> >>> tenho convites de professores para fazer mestrado tanto no DCC
>>>> quanto
>>>> >> na
>>>> >> >>> COPPE e mais de 10 artigos publicados desde revistas técnicas a
>>>> >> congressos e
>>>> >> >>> journals.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> CR só conta quando não te conhecem. E se não te conhecem
>>>> dificilmente
>>>> >> vai
>>>> >> >>> ser só o CR que vai fazer vc ser escolhido ou não para uma vaga
>>>> (seja
>>>> >> do que
>>>> >> >>> for).
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>
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>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> 2011/7/18 Thiago Caldeira de Lima <[email protected]>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> é para passar é 5.0. Mas com CR 5, na ufrj vc nao arruma nada,
>>>> nem
>>>> >> >>>> monitoria, menos ainda o mestrado...
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> 2011/7/18 Emerson Yamamoto <[email protected]>
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>>> Não há confusão nenhuma:
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>> 3 provas + Listas de Exercicios + Trabalho Final
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>> Fazendo todas as contas tem que dar média 5. P4 é caráter de
>>>> segunda
>>>> >> >>>>> chamada ou faz quem quer aumentar a média. Não é PF!
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>> Emerson Yamamoto
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>> 2011/7/18 Carlos Lopes <[email protected]>
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>> A média da UFRJ para qualquer matéria é 5. Geralmente na info
>>>> os
>>>> >> >>>>>> professores dão duas provas pra passar com média 7, e uma
>>>> final pra
>>>> >> passar
>>>> >> >>>>>> com cinco. Alguns professores que utilizam mais avaliações
>>>> além
>>>> >> destas três
>>>> >> >>>>>> provas padrão saem desse critério, e adotam outro a gosto,
>>>> desde que
>>>> >> você
>>>> >> >>>>>> possa passar com média 5 no final. Como o professor calcula a
>>>> média
>>>> >> tb fica
>>>> >> >>>>>> a critério dele.
>>>> >> >>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>> [s]
>>>> >> >>>>>> ttc
>>>> >> >>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>> 2011/7/18 Thiago Caldeira de Lima <[email protected]>
>>>> >> >>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>> Como disse anteriormente, a média na UFRJ é 7.0 para passar
>>>> direto.
>>>> >> >>>>>>> Para ser aprovado na disciplina, 5.0. O critério fica com o
>>>> >> professor.
>>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>> 2011/7/18 Emerson Yamamoto <[email protected]>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>> A Avaliação determinará a Nota Final do aluno. Para ser
>>>> aprovado,
>>>> >> o
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> aluno deve obter Nota Final igual ou superior a 5,0
>>>> (cinco).
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Os componentes da avaliação de cada aluno serão:
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> - Provas (em laboratório, podem incluir questões teóricas e
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> práticas)
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> - Listas de exercícios (individuais, e com data limite)
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> - Trabalho final (obrigatório, com nota mínima para passar)
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>> *Prova de Segunda Chamada*
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> A Prova 4 (P4) é uma prova de segunda chamada, com toda a
>>>> matéria
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> dada, que substitui uma das provas a que o aluno tenha
>>>> faltado.
>>>> >> Essa prova
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> incluirá toda a matéria dada, e terá o peso da prova
>>>> substituída.
>>>> >> Caso o
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> aluno tenha faltado a mais de uma prova, a P4 substituirá a
>>>> prova
>>>> >> de maior
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> peso.
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Caso o aluno tenha realizado todas as provas, poderá optar
>>>> por se
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> submeter à P4 para tentar melhorar a média das provas.
>>>> Nesse caso
>>>> >> a nota da
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> P4 substituirá a menor nota entre as 3 provas, com o peso
>>>> desta
>>>> >> prova.
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Não tem discussão, segundo o site a média é cinco. Média na
>>>> UFRJ é
>>>> >> >>>>>>>> 7,0 pra passar direto absolutamente agora desde quando?
>>>> Então
>>>> >> conversa com a
>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Sulamita porque tem que reprovar bastante gente que passou
>>>> >> *DIRETO*com notas entre em 5,0 e 6,9. O critério de avaliação é o
>>>> professor
>>>> >> quem
>>>> >> >>>>>>>> faz.
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Abraços.
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>> 2011/7/18 Thiago Caldeira de Lima <[email protected]>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Média na UFRJ é 7.0 para passar direto. Menor que isso,
>>>> prova
>>>> >> final.
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Após a prova final, a média, para ser aprovado é 5.0
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> 2011/7/18 Philippe A. <[email protected]>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Professor, No site diz que a média para passar direto é 5,
>>>> porém
>>>> >> me
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> disseram que era 7, entao eu gostaria de saber qual é
>>>> realmente
>>>> >> a
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> média.. pois em algumas matérias a média para passar só
>>>> fica 5
>>>> >> após
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> a
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> prova final, já que sua p4 não é exatamente uma prova
>>>> final
>>>> >> entao a
>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> média do curso é 5?
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