Try this link:   http://www.biwa.ne.jp/%7Eshamada/fullmac/repairEng.html   excellent 
debugging information....

Also if they are vertical stripes on the top which shift about midway down 
horizontally one stripe width, this is usually a weird short and/or noise on the logic 
board..... I just resuscitated mine with help from the Pickle, Gamba, and others on 
this list -- I scrubbed the whole board in Electronic Cleaner from Radio Schlock..... 
cleaned up all the accumulated dust etc... also did the contacts and sockets for RAM 
and ROM.... when done, it fired right up.....  still not sure why <grin> -- but have a 
go...

-ed 
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> 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 04:13:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John Stetson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Did I kill the girl?
> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> &gt;first, try the mac without the extra drive.  it
> &gt;sounds like a memory problem with the mac, usually
> 
> &gt;fixed by cleaning the edges with a clean pencil
> &gt;eraser and blowing the crumbs off.
> 
> I did disconnect the extra drive and I get the same
> thing.  I'll try replacing or cleaning the memory
> tonight to see if that fixes it.
> 
> &gt;second, nothing you did should have hurt the drive
> or &gt;the mac.
> 
> Wshew!  I hope you're right.  It doesn't look good,
> doc.
> 
> &gt;third, it would really, really help to know what
> the 
> &gt;error message was specifically.  in any case, that
> 
> &gt;could have been an early symptom of the memory 
> &gt;problem.
> 
> There was no error message.  I think I shut down the
> Mac because I wanted to replace the drive in the
> external case.  When I booted back up, she was in
> cardiac arrest.
> 
>

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