At 9:29 AM -0400 10/8/03, Jason White wrote:
This subject seems to come up occationally, but when I searched the
archives for "DSL" and "Verizon", nothing really appeared. Do they only
store the archives for so long?

Anyhow, I just checked Verizon's webpage (I have been doing so about once
every six months) and found out that DSL is finally available on my phone
line. I also saw that the modem they provide uses ethernet instead of
USB. I'm in hog heaven now! But before I sign up, I've got one little
problem. My little SE/30.

Can this machine still be used with DSL? If it matters, it has 20M of
RAM, a 1G HD, an Assante ethernet card and is running system 7.1
(updated), with OT 1.1.2. I pretty much only use it on the internet to
check email (using Claris Emailer 1.1v3), but I would hate to have to
keep paying for dialup just to check my email. I'm asking here because
the system requirements that verizon lists obviously rule out my SE/30.
Actually, they make it confusing by saying you need OS X and powerPC
processor of at least 120Mhz. I've decide to ask here first, as if I call
them they are going to tell me I need OS X and that will be the end of
the discussion.


Which just goes to show they are confused. The slowest machine that will run OS X has a 233 MHz processor. Most ISPs get lazy and require some limited range of OS and machine. But what they often mean is that they won't support anything but this. If the DSL uses PPPoE then the SE/30 might have problems accessing it directly. But it will work fine through a router.


Does anyone here have an 030 machine running 7.1 hooked up to DSL? Not that this would be a regular occurrance, but does iCab work on it? Claris Emailer?


For Internet access I would upgrade the 030 to 7.5.5 (free from Apple). A number of programs require it.


Right now I've got three machines hooked up to a four port hub. If I hook the modem to the hub, would it be possible for the three machines to use DSL, or would I need a router of sorts? If I do need a router, will file sharing between my three machines still work?

Unless they provide multiple IPs you will need a router. If they charge for those IPs a router will be cheaper (not so) long term. I don't know if Verizon uses PPPoE (they probably do). If they do then a router becomes an even better choice. The PPPoE software for the Mac is at best marginal. I have a client who got Earthlink DSL and tried using PPPoE software with IPNetRouter. The PPPoE software alone was difficult, with the router it got even worse. I finally had the client get a router and it cleaned it took care of it.



I would appreciate any insight on these questions, either on or off list. If anything I've asked is too far OT (there's been alot of that going around lately), please respond offlist.


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Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

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