On Oct 30, 2004, at 4:07 AM, Brian wrote:
On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 12:26 AM, Gary Danko wrote: someone wrote:Sometimes people configure static addresses and then try to ping the Mac
from another computer. That usually fails unless the Mac is already
running an internet application which has activated the TCP/IP software.
If I want to launch a server I need to have a static, then.. Hmmmm
Coming in way late here but this statement isn't 100% correct.
First, reading through the thread, you're only talking at this point about internal LAN stuff, so for your purposes, everything is static anyway. Even though it's DHCP, the numbers aren't going to change unless you do something creative. You can install servers internally all you want. You just have to know their initial IP.
Yeah I figured that out. It always gets 192.168.2.3.
For WAN side, you can have a dynamic name assigned for free from the wonderful www.dyndns.org (not the .com, that's another company squatting).
I have a domain name so all that is set up :)
There are even little clients that run on your Mac and update the dyndns.org name registry so you can even be on dialup, and have the name lookup work without any fuss (when you are online of course). This is great for cable modems too as once in a while (about once every 2 years for me) they rework your subnet and your home IP changes. For all practical purposes, broadband is about the same as static, unless they are doing a lot of work in your area. If you buy a static IP though then incoming port 80 will work, most everyplace blocks inbound 80 for residential IP addresses (8080 still works).
I have a shell script on the OS X side to do that because roadrunner changes my IP sometimes
The free names will be of the sort yournamehere.dyndns.org; for a small fee you can get your own domain yourname.org.
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As relates the other guys statement about 'ping', I think you misunderstand him. You can still set up a computer (server or not) and ping its IP address using DHCP-derived addresses (if you could not, then you'd not be able to get internet traffic on any DHCP-based IP).
And is this really a linksys switch only, or is a router/switch combo?
Switch I have a router combo also
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And to switch topics :)
I read back through the thread and- I'm lost at what your goal is :) why are you not plugging the SE/30 into one of the ports on the router (Airport Extreme Base Station has all of (1) wired port, right?) Even if you have no spare ports, you have the hub, you could plug the hub into one spot and make 4 new places. Which again will help as someone said, if for some reason the SE can't get an IP from the router (sorry, AEBS) directly (although I gathered you are setting up a DHCP server on the X machine for some reason).
The wireless unit is in another room. The G5 has to do wireless because of the layout. Its not my choice but its how it must be done. The SE/30 has to use Internet Connection Sharing on the G5
Especially if you are talking about setting up a server (on the SE30?) then for the setup I think you have been describing, you'll need port forwarding on the router, set to move the traffic to the OS X machine. Then on the OS X machine, you'll have to have something running for router software to forward the traffic again to the SE. You could avoid all this by just putting the SE on the router, even using the little hub if you have to.
Sadly the router can only port forward 192.168.1.0 and OS X hands out 192.168.2.0. I COULD put the SE/30 on the wifi router but it lives in the livingroom. I am considering moving the cable modem to the garage and putting the wifi near the garage/livingroom door.
HTH. Where are you going with this, anyway? I thought I knew once when I first saw the thread... :) To me, your question indicated that- you had a cable modem, an OS X box, no router- and wanted to share the X machines internet without buying a $30 router. But now it seems you have lots of tools at hand to do this a lot more effectively.
The G5 is using wifi cuz it has to. It is two rooms away from the router. The only cable jacks are in the bedroom and livingroom. The computer room is a patio turned into a room so it isnt wired in any way! I have to do wifi all over. If I move the cable modem to the garage I can set up my SE/30 and whatnot out there.
OR does the AEBS not have a router/firewall built in? I think it has to, to do the wireless/wired routing properly. Heck it would be easier even to buy a $20 home firewall/router with 4 or 5 ethernet jacks, and plug the AEBS into *that*; and you'd have plenty of spare jacks that way. Prices of home router/firewalls have come way down.
I've read the thread and the AEBS specs and I still think there's an easier way than what you are attempting. Please let me know what I'm missing here, if there is not... :)
Thanks,
Brian
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