On Friday 21 January 2011 12:12:49 Sam Spilsbury wrote: > Hi All, > > Sorry I haven't gotten into this earlier, I have been busy fixing bugs > and doing other things. Most points have been covered though, so I'll > just add some things which could be interesting to consider. I agree > with the general premise of where the discussion is going, and think > that the best time to look into this is after 0.9.4 when I start to > look at the modularization of compiz code again. For when is 0.9.4 planned? > > > I don't agree with this conclusion, though: Releasing KWD with KDE just > > moves the code-is-broken-due-to-unsynced-release problem from 'KWD is > > broken when KDE code is changed' to 'KWD is broken when Compiz code is > > changed'. I'm not sure how that improves things, especially given that > > Compiz 0.8 (which is still widely used) and Compiz 0.9 have different > > decoration APIs (to accomodate non-composited rendering and reparenting > > in 0.9). > > As a small aside, I think it should be possible to merge the 0.8 and > 0.9 decorators and change functionality depending on which decoration > API is supported (we announce it in the property). I'll look into this > once I get back to looking at further modularization of git > components. I have a working version of this in fact, but nobody > really looked at it so it never got merged in. That sounds as a good solution > I think it would be interesting to discuss at the Desktop Summit and > beforehand on wm-spec a standard for pushing UI componentry into the > compositing manager (with wayland and such in mind here), in a > standard way (like Ayatana is doing now with libappindicator and > libdbusmenu + dee). Apart from GNOME blocking the status notifier standardization and having implemented something different for GNOME Shell which would require patching all apps :-( > Pretty much everyone is doing it differently now, > and this fragmentation is probably going to become problematic soon I > think. Given the current activity on wm-spec I doubt that's useful at all. To your last thread nobody except me replied. On that basis it does not look like it's possible to standardize anything anymore. I have great hopes in Desktop Summit to get the standardization body set up again. But maybe it needs a complete restart as it's not about WMs anymore.
Cheers Martin
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