You don't need to play tengen to defeat mirror-go with Black, you can set up a ladder towards tengen. There are known pro-games that defeat mirror-go this way.

Mark

On 11-okt-06, at 11:44, Santi Ontañón wrote:

How do you plan to detect that a move is "inefficient"?


On 10/11/06, steve uurtamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i'm wondering about perfect 19x19 game strategy
> (about which i assume not much is known).
>
> here's what i'm thinking.
>
> as white, mirror black until black plays
> inefficiently, then play to take advantage
> of that inefficiency.  (so if the first move
> by black is inefficent, there will be no mirror).
>
> as black, being mirrored, play tengen as soon as
> it is the best move on the board.  (i have a sense
> that tengen as first move won't pop out as best
> opening move for ideal play, but who knows?)
>
> are there any theoretical reasons to believe
> that it won't look like this?  any practical
> reasons?  i.e. has anyone seen tengen openings
> in pro games?  i've seen them in high-level amateur
> dan games, but don't know if it's just people
> screwing around or if it has any legitimacy.  same
> question applies to mirroring.  just curious,
>
> s.
>
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