When someone mentioned a position where a pass-alive group should be
sacrificed - I wondered if it was also due to PSK issues.

I want to clarify something I said about PSK.  I don't think the rule is
"wrong" in any sense - after all you can make up any rules you want as
long as they are internally consistent.   I just believe it's a rather
arbitrary rule which has been accepted primarily because it rarely turns
out to make a difference in most situations.  

For instance, I could add a rule to chess which says "it's illegal to
move a bishop to g2 on the 8th move."   It would be a rather silly and
arbitrary rule and wouldn't be consistent with the spirit of the game,
and it would introduce a small bias against white for no good reason -
but it would be a valid rule and the game could still be played
reasonably.   However it would be an ugly wart on the game.  (Chess has
a lot of funny rules in it anyway which have been added over the years
to improve the game.)

- Don
 

On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 11:56 +0200, Erik van der Werf wrote:
> On 10/23/06, Tom Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At 01:54 23/10/2006, you wrote:
> > 
> > >There was a posting on this list with an example of a (contrived?) 
> > >situation where sacrificing a pass-alive group is appropriate, in
> order to
> > >win a ko that is more valuable.  Is even #1 "100% admissible"?
> > >
> > >Weston
> > 
> > 
> > I must have missed this, and find it surprising.  Can anyone
> remember the
> > example?
> > 
> 
> I probably posted that; it is a superko anomaly.
> 
> 
> . O O # # # O O .
> O . O # . # O O #
> O O # . # O O # .
> # # # # # O O # #
> O O O O # # O O .
> . . O # # # # O O
> O O # # O O O # O
> O . O # O . O # #
> O . O # O O . # .
> 
> 9x9 board, superko, area scoring, 6 komi for White
> It does not matter who plays first.
> 
> 
> Assuming that the players agree that white's upper left group is dead
> the position can be scored as it stands (jigo). 
> 
> Solution at http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/~vanderwerf/pubdown/stelling3.sgf
> 
> Erik
> 
> 
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