Again, this stuff doesn't work so well with Monte Carlo programs which would be totally frustrated starting from a losing position - they are all about finding moves that might win the game - not increase the territory count.
Also, komi is like a fine tuning knob, stone handicap can be used to make up huge differences in strength. It seems that any kind of handicap is less practical for computers. - Don On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 05:19 +0900, Hideki Kato wrote: > Stuart A. Yeates‚³‚ñ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >Increasing komi is much easier than placing stores, but a much weaker > >representation of how go games are actually played in the real world. > > Agree. But we'd better not to be bothered by fixed stones now, I > believe. > > >cheers > >stuart > > > >On 12/15/06, Hideki Kato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Increasing KOMI is much easier than placing stones, right? > >> > >> Jacques Basaldúa‚³‚ñ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >I would like to take part in the 19x19 competition. > >> >I also prefer kyu rating to Elo, but I got the impression that > >> >you were relating kyu rating with handicap games (that is > >> >usually done by human players). > >> > > >> >I think handicap is a bad idea for computers. Handicap > >> >requires human intelligence to understand how the playing > >> >style must be changed. It completely ruins fuseki databases > >> >and may also make josekis that are good under equal play > >> >too slow. Of course, if you pretend to ruin fuseki database > >> >programs, its a good idea. But I think dan/pro level fuseki > >> >is not only legitimate, but probably the best possible fuseki > >> >and it can be played in ultrablitz which preserves computing > >> >time for later moves. The only drawback is 10 Mb of > >> >disk space. Any silly welcome video is heavier than that. > >> > > >> >I suggest, if handicap is implemented, it should be optional. > >> > > >> >Jacques. > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >computer-go mailing list > >> >[email protected] > >> >http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > >> -- > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kato) > >> _______________________________________________ > >> computer-go mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > >> > >---- inline file > >_______________________________________________ > >computer-go mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kato) > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
