On 1/29/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't understand what you are saying here.

Here is what I THINK you are saying ...

simple MC with all as first beats "standard" UCT at
19x19 go.

Is that what you mean?

Yes, That is what I meant.
I.e. Noise is so high on 19x19, that You need much more playouts
to have the same confidence about move.

I.e. just look at the numbers - how many playouts each move received
(ni UCT algorithm).

Best Regards
Łukasz


My experience with simple MC is that it does beat
UCT at really fast time controls in 9x9 and I believe,
although I haven't tested it, that simple MC
(with all-as-first)  will be superior at 19x19 until
you reach some fairly high number of play-outs.

In the 24 hour tournament I didn't use my MC program
for a couple of reasons,  one of them was my concern
about the memory requirements and the other was that
it wasn't clear to me that it would play stronger.
I felt that simple MC might be in it's sweet spot
even though it's not scalable beyond a certain point.

However, I have no hard evidence - it was just a
"hunch" and I did no studies as it was a last minute
decision to enter the tournament.

- Don






On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 23:49 +0100, Łukasz Lew wrote:
> Try simple MC with all as first :)
> I guess it beat any UCT totally.
> ( one playout here will be as 200-300 in UCT)


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