It's not clear if you are talking about professional Dan level or Amateur Dan level. I've played the top 9x9 programs at 9x9, and so have several other amateur Dan players, and I think we all agree that the top 9x9 programs have reached amateur Dan level. I don't think these programs are as strong as professional Dan players.
At 19x19 their strength is much less clear. I don't think they are quite to amateur Dan yet. David Fotland > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:computer-go- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Jasiek > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 7:54 AM > To: computer-go > Subject: Re: [computer-go] New engine? From a Chess programmer > perspective. > > Don Dailey wrote: > > Just a few years ago it was widely held that computers will not reach > > Dan level "in my lifetime" even in 9x9 Go. When it happened in 9x9 > > go, it was not accepted - the day it happened passed us by and > nobody > > noticed it. It's probably still not common knowledge and it will > > take time for it to be generally believed. > > What is the basis of the claim that a program has reached a certain > human rank level? > > There should be systematic tests. Let it play against many humans. Let > it enter human tournaments. Use a meaningful evaluation context. > > For some such evaluation, let me refer to a useful handicap system for > 9x9, which has been used in some European 9x9 "Championships": For the > first 10 rank differences (0, 1,.., 9) decrease the komi from 6.5 for > an > even game by 1 point per extra rank. (Komi can become negative.) - OC, > I > prefer to see even games. OTOH, until the program rank is well known, > it may be suitable to let a simgle human (the more humans the better) > play until the handicap becomes stable. > > -- > robert jasiek > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
