Don Dailey: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >I can't think of any really clever way to handle this. Here is about >the best I can think of right now: > >Keep statistics on each program - how often it loses due to time or >illegal moves. Use those statistics to reduce the impact of the rating >formula. I could arrange it so that even if 10% of your games are >lost that way, your rating becomes highly suspicious and given very >little weight in the rating formula. This basically amounts to >treating the games of such players as if they were un-rated games.
Nice idea, I believel this will work well. Thank you, Don. -Hideki >- Don > > > > > > > > >Hideki Kato wrote: >> Don Dailey: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> I don't think this has a very large impact on the rating pool. It's >>> annoying, but it will all average out. No extra points are leaving or >>> entering the rating pool as a result of this so this will not cause >>> general inflation or deflation. It may cause a slight "compression" >>> effect where the lows and highs come closer together, but I believe this >>> will be minor. >>> >> >> Sure, "compression" can be observed but I don't believe it's minor. >> >> The rating of mogo-big-4c-nb-32 is 2465 now (which could decrease more >> if allowed resign) while it had been over 2500 for months. >> This is one example and another is that the winning rate against >> mogo-big-4c-nb-32 of Salat is 50% (19/38) but its rating is >> only 2341, which should be over 2400 in former days, I believe. >> >> -Hideki >> >> >>> The next time I run the all time rating list, I will see what happens >>> if I ignore kartoffel's games - just to see if this has much of an >>> impact. >>> >>> - Don >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hideki Kato wrote: >>> >>>> I'm afraid that kartoffel may cause some confusion on the ratings. >>>> I've set mogo-big-4c-nb-32 never resign but this will help little. >>>> >>>> I'd like to prefer every program never resign until the author of >>>> kartoffel fix the bug to prevent the ratings being corrupted. >>>> >>>> -Hideki >>>> >>>> John Fan: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Seems it has a serious bug on end game against weak bots. Most of its >>>>> losing >>>>> games against weak bots lost on illegal move. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:36 PM, John Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> kartoffel on cgos has a high winning ratings against strong bots, but >>>>>> losing to weak bots. Its rating is only 1575, but has higher than 50% >>>>>> against bots over 2200 ratings. Anybody knows what algorithm it uses? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ---- inline file >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> computer-go mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kato) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> computer-go mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ---- inline file >>> _______________________________________________ >>> computer-go mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >>> >> -- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kato) >> _______________________________________________ >> computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >> >> >_______________________________________________ >computer-go mailing list >[email protected] >http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kato) _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
