I think that most people trying go-programming will try at least to experiment 
once with UCT.
The first logical step, is to build an amaf-bot. The other logical step, is to 
build a UCT bot. That's exactly the path i followed. And i bet many others have 
done that too. So it may be guessed that many more will do so. I feel that the 
most important thing is to be able to be rightly confident that the 
implementation is roughly right. It's true that an implementation can also 
serves as a basis for something else. But that will not be possible if you 
can't get a strong confidence that it is rightly done.

 So i guess that you should keep things as simple as you can in your 
reference-implementation. Litles tweaks will be easily doable after you get the 
specification understandable once. For exemple, i do not think that the 
"explore the pass" lines are a must have. You can test an UCT implementation 
that never pass as long as there are "valid" moves left. (valid in the sense 
nor suicide, nor pseudo-eyes). That's simple. And yet i think the program can 
play strongly enougth (given enougth simulations are made - Say 50 000).

 UCT has many constants built in. (By the way, i don't really understand those 
2 and 10 factors. Wouldn't that go in the exploration-factor ?? as *sqrt(1/5) 
). I guess that any value would be good enougth, as long as it makes the 
behavior of the bot rather clear. So other people can adjust this factor, and 
compare their results. If later on, after the implementation has cought some 
attention, if one value get to be known as better, it'll still be time to put 
it in. It probably won't be a big fuss to adjust anyone's implementation to it 
anyway. You have to set up a conventionnal value that people can use as a 
reference, be it bad. SO 1.0 (or sqrt(1/5) would be Okay i suppose).

 I don't think that wasting simulations in the end-game is really a problem for 
a reference implementation.

The main problem i spot, is that you may need a fair number of simulations, to 
get some inter implementations reproducible data. Not everyone will be able or 
willing to put so much computing power to that usage. But even then, to have a 
reference specification will never be a loss. Especially once the 
AMAF-reference-specification start to get it's own pages (if it's not already 
the case : i have always have great trouble to track out all the links. Maybe 
it would be good to put it as a CGOS partner or something :) Then all people 
have to know is where to find CGOS. So the goal of the UCT-reference would be 
to be presented along with the AMAF-reference, with all the data that has been 
collected about how to make "sure" that one implementation behavior is correct. 
And also maybe, along with some popular boost (like the weight for the 
AMAF-ref), or a Basic way of making RAVE work with it. But that'll be later.


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