I'd expect this achievement by AlphaGo is very similar to when the first human ran a 4 minute mile. No one had done it prior. However, right after Roger Bannister did it, suddenly there were people all over the planet doing it. Roger Bannister essentially made the possibility real, and then the psychology changed and lots of others made it over the hurdle. AlphaGo turned the possibility of an AI becoming a 9d into reality.
AlphaGo may have made it to 9d first. However, I expect we will now begin seeing lots of different successful attempts to accomplish the same thing, and relatively soon, too. We've already seen several different comments on this email list of people working furiously to make the same leaps the AlphaGo team have described creating. The risk on these investments has been substantially reduced by AlphaGo's unambiguous success. If the chess world is any sort of guide to how Go AI is going to continue to develop, then we will see plenty of progress over the next 36 months. I wouldn't be surprised to hear the Facebook team working on their AI ends up coming in second to the +9d AI club. On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Igor Polyakov <weiqiprogramm...@gmail.com> wrote: > At this point I don't doubt that the single machine version is > professional strength which is enough to be used as a tool to analyze > games... > > > On 2016-03-12 16:24, Lukas van de Wiel wrote: > > This would be many thousands of dollars per day. A single game would be > more than a thousand dollars in total costs. > I do not think a kickstarter project or so would be successful, as the go > community is simply not *that* big... > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira < <go...@sapo.pt> > go...@sapo.pt> wrote: > >> It does seem unlikely for DeepMind not to move on to "bigger" things, >> but maybe the Go community can make some kind of fundraiser to keep an >> instance of AlphaGo playing 24/7? I think there are some websites for >> this kind of thing. Someone would be in charge of scheduling time for it >> to play pros, other programs, and maybe play online on breaks. Just an >> idea, oh Google overlords that watch all communications. >> >> Gonçalo >> >> On 13/03/2016 00:06, Lukas van de Wiel wrote: >> > Oh, I did not say that it would not be beneficial, to AlphaGo, and to >> the >> > people playing it, and to the Go community as a whole, but still, it >> will >> > have to come from somewhere. Just the electricity bill alone would be >> > hair-raising. >> > And the big-scale benefits in prestige and marketing are over, with this >> > victory. >> > >> > It would be cool to build on the works of AlphaGo, and I would like to >> see >> > it as much as the next enthusiast, but I doubt the feasibility... >> > >> > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Thomas Wolf < <tw...@brocku.ca> >> tw...@brocku.ca> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 12 Mar 2016, Lukas van de Wiel wrote: >> >> >> >> And the hardware available for this tournament was tremendous. It >> remains >> >>> to be seen whether the hardware and the people >> >>> maintaining it would be available for a longer period. The costs of >> this >> >>> are not to be underestimated. Who would pay it? >> >>> >> >> >> >> The AlphaGo team would get feedback from testing by players with very >> >> different ideas/strengths who they would otherwise never get in contact >> >> with. >> >> >> >> For example, Michael Redmond mentioned repeatedly in the last 3 reviews >> >> that >> >> he would love to play AlphaGo to study Go, to find new openings,... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Lukas >> >>> >> >>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Clark B. Wierda <cbwie...@gmail.com >> > >> >>> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Thomas Wolf <tw...@brocku.ca> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> Having AlphaGo playing exclusively on KGS would be such a >> >>> boost to KGS! >> >>> >> >>> For sure. >> >>> >> >>> The other Go servers might have their own opinion on that. >> >>> >> >>> Clark >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing > listComputer-go@computer-go.orghttp://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >
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