On 10 May 2016 at 13:39, Adrian Petrescu <apetr...@gmail.com> wrote: > If KGS is indeed still doing that thing where your rating change is > anchored to your opponents' ratings changes long after your game has > finished, then it seems to me the right solution is for wms to simply > disable that anchoring for accounts that are bots. > > Whatever usefulness that setting has (which is dubious to me even in the > normal case), surely it doesn't carry over to a situation where the > "player" being anchored to can be very, very different from the player that > won/lost the original game causing the anchoring. >
Whatever anyone thinks about the KGS rating algorithm, it isn't going to change any time soon. If wms ever finds time to work on KGS, he has much higher priorities. Nick On May 10, 2016 7:12 AM, "Nick Wedd" <mapr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This message is mainly to explain the reasoning behind KGS's rules on >> granting rated-bot status. >> >> The rating system assumes that each player's strength is fairly stable. >> To give an example of the sort of thing that might upset the rating system: >> >> In the recent bot tournament, LeelaBot lost a game by trying to make an >> illegal move in its opponent's one-point eye. That is not a problem in >> itself. Suppose it plays rated games on KGS (as it would have to, to >> acquire a rating) and some humans users find a way to take advantage of >> this bug, and use it to boost their own ratings. Their ratings will rise, >> as will the ratings of other users who have played them. That is >> unfortunate. Now suppose Gian-Carlo fixes the bug, and LeelaBot continues >> playing. Its rating will now rise, as will the ratings of those who learned >> to profit from the bug, *and* of those others who have played them, >> etc.. This is what the admins really want to avoid. >> >> I believe that if a significant improvement in a rated bot is made, its >> account should be abandoned, and a new one created. I will advise the KGS >> superadmin accordingly. >> >> (In fact, I do not know why LeelaBot's application for Rated bot status >> has produced no response. I am trying to find out. I hope Gian-Carlo >> Pascutto can fix the bug, and if he can, he should do so *before* it >> starts to play rated games.) >> >> Nick >> -- >> Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > -- Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com
_______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
