I trained using David Wu's code for a few months on 9x9 only and it's been superhuman after a few months.
I'm not sure if anyone's interested, but I can release my network to the world. It's around the strength of KataGo, but only on 9x9. I could do a final test before releasing it into the wild On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 00:17 Rémi Coulom <remi.cou...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, using komi would help a lot. Still, I feel that something else must > be wrong, because winning 100% of the games as Black without komi should be > very easy on 7x7. > > I have not written anything about what I did with Crazy Stone. But my > experiments and ideas were really very similar to what David Wu did: > https://blog.janestreet.com/accelerating-self-play-learning-in-go/ > > To clarify what I wrote in my previous message: "strong from scratch in a > single day" was for 7x7. I like testing new ideas with small networks on > small boards, because training is very fast, and what works on small boards > with small networks usually also works on large boards with big networks. > > Rémi > > On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 12:30 AM cody2007 <cody2...@protonmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Rémi, >> >> Thanks for your comments! I am not using any komi and had not given much >> thought to it. Although, I suppose by having black win most games, I'm >> depriving the network of its only learning signal. I will have to try with >> an appropriately set komi next... >> >> >When I started to develop the Zero version of Crazy Stone, I spend a lot >> of time optimizing my method on a single (V100) GPU >> Any chance you've written about it somewhere? I'd be interested to learn >> more but wasn't able to find anything on the Crazy Stone website. >> >> Thanks, >> Cody >> >> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ >> On Saturday, January 25, 2020 5:49 PM, Rémi Coulom <remi.cou...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for sharing your experiments. >> >> Your match results are strange. Did you use a komi? You should use a komi >> of 9: >> https://senseis.xmp.net/?7x7 >> >> The final strength of your network looks surprisingly weak. When I >> started to develop the Zero version of Crazy Stone, I spend a lot of time >> optimizing my method on a single (V100) GPU. I could train a strong network >> from scratch in a single day. Using a wrong komi might have hurt you. Also, >> on such a small board, it is not so easy to make sure that the self-play >> games have enough variety. You'd have to find many balanced random initial >> positions in order to avoid replicating the same game again and again. >> >> Rémi >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >
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