Of course the participants' opinions matter most, but I do not understand the attraction to integer komi. Draws are ugly and inconvenient.
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:09 PM, David Fotland <[email protected]>wrote: > I agree that 7.0 would be a better komi for the computer Olympiad, but it > should be decided soon, since the komi affects the opening book, and an > integer komi requires some changes in the playout algorithm to properly > account for draws.**** > > ** ** > > David**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jean-loup Gailly > *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2011 7:08 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Computer-go] EGC computer-go tournament 9x9**** > > ** ** > > > At the end Zen was a convincing winner, with 9 wins out of ten games. > > Pachi on rank 2 with 5 points,**** > > ** ** > > The actual result is Zen 8 wins (won all its games, didn't play in two > games because**** > > of parity), and Pachi still rank 2 but with 4 points only. In the last game > against Pachi,**** > > Zen did not implement the KGS cleanup phase correctly, it passed while > leaving**** > > dead stones on the board. So KGS indicates that Pachi has won. However the > tournement**** > > rules > http://www.egc2011.eu/index.php/en/computer-go/75-computer-go-reglement*** > * > > indicate "In case of trouble in the KGS counting of the score, the human > referee**** > > is allowed to change the result - the situation on the board as the > priority".**** > > So it is fair to say that Zen has won the game.**** > > ** ** > > ManyFaces also failed to implement the cleanup phase correctly in another > game,**** > > but this did not affect the result.**** > > ** ** > > Jean-loup**** > > 2011/8/1 "Ingo Althöfer" <[email protected]>**** > > Today a 9x9 computer-go tournament was played within > the European Go Congress: > 5 bots participating, for each pairing two rounds (with different colours). > > At the end Zen was a convincing winner, with 9 wins out of ten games. > Pachi on rank 2 with 5 points, ahead of ManyFaces, MyGoFriend, and > MoGo. > http://www.gokgs.com/tournEntrants.jsp?sort=s&id=608 > > Komi was 7.5. 16 out of the 20 games ended with wins for White. > From the four wins with Black three were achieved by Zen, the other > one by Pachi. > > I think it is really necessary to play in the Tilburg Olympiad with > a smaller komi value. Probably 7.0 would be a fair choice. > > Ingo. > > -- > NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >
_______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
