On 03/01/2012 07:47, Jouni Valkonen wrote:


On 3 January 2012 00:53, Aja Huang <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Blitz games such as 15s/move favor MCTS programs. I expect both Zen
    and CrazyStone will drop to 4d in longer games.


It would be nice to have bot Zen and CS in slower (ca. 60min)
tournaments. I remember that Zen has participated at least to one KGS
tournament, and did good, but more data would be nice. from slower
thinking time. Byouyomi playing is always little bit difficult for humans.

The tournaments I organise on KGS do not include any with an hour each. This is because most of them are held within a single 8-hour session, and are Swiss, so an hour each would mean only for rounds, which I think is not enough. A few of them are held over most of a week, and have all had at least two hours per player per game.

These tournaments all use something close to absolute time (Canadian overtime of 10 moves in 30 seconds) so as to use the time effectively.

I am open to persuasion to change any of this.

Zen has been taking a short holiday from these tournaments, and CrazyStone has not played in one since April 2010
  http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/58/index.html
when it came second, behind Zen.

The next one will be on January 15th, with 19x19 boards and time limits of ~30 minutes each. I am hoping that Zen and CrazyStone will both take part.

Nick


Also, especially, I would love to see strong gobot playing in EGC 2012
main tournament. Of course there is lots of organizing thing to do, but
those two evil gobots are good enough and still not yet too good to
participate into serious human tournaments with long thinking times.

I personally prefer to play 80×20sec at KGS. It quite nice playing pace.
There is 28 minutes for thinking + 20 sec for each moves. It is
significantly better for humans than 20 min + 5×30 sec, although total
game is length is roughly the same.

–Jouni




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