even with the joseki libraries, MCTS prefers center? that seems to favor the idea of center actually being good.
s. On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, David Fotland <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes. That's why MCTS prefers the center. Sometimes the playouts let an > invasion work, so corner territory is not evaluated as being as secure as it > should be. It seems easier for MCTS to kill groups in the center in the > playouts. > > David > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go- >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of steve uurtamo >> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 8:03 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] replacing dynamic komi with a scoring function >> >> underestimation? >> >> s. >> >> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Yamato <[email protected]> wrote: >> > (2012/01/09 9:56), Jouni Valkonen wrote: >> >> >> >> There is indeed a problem with Dynamic komi with Zen. Zen often loses >> >> the handicap games if black tries to minimize the move count. Often if >> >> it is possible to bring game to small yose in around move 180 or so and >> >> if not too much behind, then Zen most likely will lose. I have played >> >> few games where Zen noted only when filling last dames that it is > losing >> >> the game by few or half points and then resign. Although, one game was >> >> that I lost by ½ points, because I accidentally defended unnecessarily >> >> instead of taking the last dame. One game was that i was about ten >> >> points behind around move 180, but then Zen played a slack small yose, >> >> and lost by 2½ points. Also good and very easy strategy against zen in >> >> handicap games is to take all the sides and give center territory to > the >> >> Zen. Zen almost always will take the center territory as too small and >> >> gives sides as too big. >> > >> > >> > I think people often confuse the evaluation problem and the dynamic komi >> > problem. A more urgent problem is the underestimation of the edge and >> > corner territory. >> > >> > -- >> > Yamato >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Computer-go mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
