there's a great thing to exploit: the exploration factor explodes because of the options.
same reason (i'm guessing) that two or three interrelated semeais can lead to exploratory disaster -- too much to deal with. s. On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, David Fotland <[email protected]> wrote: > I had the same problem with Many Faces until recently, and I think Aja fixed > it in Erica also. The symptom is pretty clear: an important ko appears and > the program starts playing ko threats rather than starting the ko. > > David > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go- >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of steve uurtamo >> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:27 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] John is Tromp in Game 1 >> >> i'd be surprised if the ko threats had more utility for mcts than as >> potential chances for winning due to mistake. i.e. if you have 50 ko >> threats, they all look like (especially after digging into the tree) >> ways to win due to mistake. >> >> s. >> >> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM, David Fotland <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Around move 121, it looks like Zen has the common MCTS problem that it >> plays the ko threats before starting the ko. �Ko threats are essential for >> wining, so RAVE gives them very high biases. >> > >> > David >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go- >> >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of "Ingo Alth�fer" >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:16 AM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: [Computer-go] John is Tromp in Game 1 >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> John Tromp got the white stones and his been winning >> >> game 1 of the slow-time match aagainst Zen on KGS. >> >> >> >> The sgf, including chat, you can download here: >> >> www.althofer.de/tromp-zen-01.sgf >> >> >> >> I let ManyFaces run across the game and got the following two figures. >> >> Monte-Carlo percents: >> >> http://www.althofer.de/tromp-zen-01-percents.jpg >> >> Expected Territory: >> >> http://www.althofer.de/tromp-zen-01-territory.jpg >> >> >> >> Around move 118-120 experts were still undecided about the possible >> outcome. >> >> According to ManyFaces, the game may have turned to John's favour around >> >> move 130. At move 146 Hideki said that Zen had still 37 % "self- >> confidence". >> >> >> >> Ingo. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zur?ck-Garantie! >> >> Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Computer-go mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Computer-go mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
