On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Kahn Jonas <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's not too far from the winrates between Cho Hunhyun and Seo > Bongsoo. > The latter is far from the glory of the former, but when they were by > far the two strongest players in Korea, Seo has won his share of titles. >
To be honest, I don't have solid statistics to back it up. Having said that, I'd be surprised if the real winning percentage of Cho Hunhyun vs. Seo Bongsoo would be 62:38. How often did they play? I remember in the old days the Go World magazine would publish the winning rates of the top players in Japan. If I remember correctly, the handful of players dividing the bulk of the titles over a decade would still only have a winning rate of about 55% over the whole year. Of course this is partly caused by top players playing among top players. But they also still play a lot against lower-tier players in for example the qualifying rounds of tournaments. The other thing you have to take into account is this: if a 'weaker' player played lots of 5-game matches against a top player, he might occasionally win one set. But the qualifying systems of these tournaments are so extensive that the weaker player very rarely makes it through. So the weaker player doesn't get a lot of shots to try. Occasionally it happens that someone wins a title as a one-time off. Most titles are divided among a small number of top players while the majority of 9p players never win any. But I'm hazarding the guess that if you'd pit a top player against a 'weaker' 9p player who never won anything major, the winning percentage of the top player would be less than 62%. But it's still only a guess, I admit. If someone has statistics at hand I'd be interested to see. Mark _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
