> 9x9 tournament had 10 participants, and Zen won. > > 1st Zen 8 -1
Congratulations to Zen on a clean sweep of the go tournaments! I'm sure feeling vindicated is one of the baser emotions, but I feel it anyway: I remember 10 or so years ago (*) people telling me 9x9 was a dull game, not worthy of research effort, and I was saying, no, there is a lot of depth here. And I claim there is still a lot of depth left to study. I notice Zen lost a game. When I spoke with Hideki Kato (who also shares my excitement at the remaining challenge of 9x9) about the loss he said it was a bug or difficult position, as Zen's evaluation went from 90-something to 0 in the space of a move. Yet this imperfect Zen beat everyone else. And this was played with a komi of 7, so what we should have been seeing is draws everywhere. Hideki also mentioned that most pros thought they could beat the strong computer programs at 9x9. I think he was saying it is 19x19 they are worried about, because it is too big and hard to play for humans. But on 9x9 they can read it out. [Hideki, please correct me if I'm mis-quoting you or the pros there.] Darren *: I remember 15+ years ago telling someone I thought I could *solve* 9x9 with a year of concerted effort (but unfortunately I was busy with 19x19). Ah, the arrogance of youth :-) _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
