Sales were in the area of 20 million in the first month, to quibble, that is twice the total sales all year of mac os x 2005 ending. That's sales to further quibble, as in on the computer, in someones house. Your argument that the numbers don't count because vista only sold 20 million copies in the first month and therefore no one was going after them completely makes my point. You say no one went after vista with 20 million in sales in ONE month, why would they go after mac os x with so many less sales over the year? So they don't go after vista because of lackluster market penetration, but they don't go after mac os x with much less market because it's too hard? Nice to have it both ways.
I've not obsessed over Secunia numbers, only gave out some info. You've tried changing numbers and altering the conversation to spin it around and around. The only fact I was pointing at was that Apple is not much more secure then windows if at all. I never claimed Apple was getting hit by trojans etc. My house has never been broken into, I don't however sit around telling everyone I'm impregnable. Mac os x is secure because there is no reason to go after it in the currrent marketplace of trojans and malware. As soon as there were 10,000 good reasons, OS X proved it was not a divinely coded OS. Despite reports, Steve Jobs is mostly human after all. Mike On 10/20/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Mike, Having a product available for sale is not the same as being in the > marketplace. It took months for Vista to be found on any significant > number of computers. By my estimation that did not happen until Summer > 2007. You could quibble about whether I should credit Vista with 2 months > or 3 months, but to say that Vista was in the marketplace for any > significant part of 2007 is simply not accurate. Software sitting in a > warehouse, on a store shelf, or in an unopened box simply don't count. > > If I wanted to quibble I expect that I could easily argue that most, > maybe all, of the flaws Secunia reported were insignificant. Note that > none of the Secunia-reported Mac flaws resulted in any real exploit. > > The fact that you find it necessary to obsess over the Secunia reports > and that Mac users pay no mind to these sky-is-falling reports says a lot > about the state of computer security. Ultimately that is what really > matters and we don't have to split hairs to establish these facts. > > > ************************************************************************ > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ************************************************************************ > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > ************************************************************************ > ************************************************************************ * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ************************************************************************ * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived ************************************************************************
