I wonder if this is another occurrence of a monster cable up sell?

Could be.  As an audio guy I'm pretty aware of the whole cable
issue.  Yes you can spend way more money for cables than seems
reasonable.  Hundreds or even thousands of dollars.  Per foot.

In a digital transfer environment I'm not sure it makes a difference.

In a digital optical transfer one can't really tell the difference between
fiber optics.  I don't think you could attribute any signal degradation
to a wired digital (USB) connection.   Either.  Unless it was missing
some signal cable or something. In digital it's either there or it's not.

Charge more for the slight improvements.

In analog this may possibly be true.  There's a definite argument
that cable composition makes a difference in the analog world.

At least audiophiles think so.  I CAN tell the difference between a
stock Sennheiser cable and a Cardas cable.  But I don't think this
applies to digital connections.



----- Original Message ----- From: "John Duncan Yoyo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] USB cables


I wonder if this is another occurrence of a monster cable up sell?
Charge more for the slight improvements.

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Fred Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Cables that I have bought recently from brand-name sources have a logo that looks like the middle logo at the top of the page: http://www.usb.org/about/faq/ I would trust such cables to be fully compliant. What you say (the faq says) below is true, but how do you know if you bought "fully compliant original USB cables" when you bought cables way back when? Do you still have the product literature? . . . Simple physics says that physical cable construction is important for useful bandwidth. Try the old cable and see what happens. You may be all right. Testing will take you some time.

The logo is on a piece of label "paper" (plastic, foil, etc.) that is wrapped around the cable and sticks to itself such that it "wings out" from the cable.

Cables that come with a product such as a hub should be compliant, but generally don't have the label.

 All this is just observed practice.

 Fred Holmes




 At 09:33 PM 2/28/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote:
 >>Yes.  The cable should have a "high speed USB" label/logo on it.  The
>>physical composition of a cable assembly is important for the bandwidth of >>the signal it is designed to carry. Older USB cables won't carry USB2 /
 >>high speed.
 >
 >What does this logo look like? I have never seen such on a cable.
 >
 >The FAQ at www.usb.org/developers/usb20/faq20/ says:
 >
 >Q: Aren't the requirements for cables different at the new higher speed
 >or will Original USB cables work with Hi-Speed USB?
 >
 >A: Fully compliant Original USB cables will work fine at Hi-Speed USB
 >speeds...



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