They don't need to shut down the alt newsgroups, or block binaries actively...just do what cox and qwest do, have a retention rate of about 48 seconds.
Mike On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:42 PM, John Duncan Yoyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > ISP's are shutting off USENET because of Andrew Cuomo, Secretary of State > for New York State. > > From the Wikipedia article on Cuomo- > > On June 10 2008 Cuomo, then New York Attorney General, announced that three > major Internet service providers (Verizon > Communications<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Communications>, > Time Warner Cable <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Warner_Cable>, and > Sprint <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_Nextel>) would "shut down > major > sources of online child pornography" by no longer hosting many > Usenet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet>groups. Time Warner Cable > ceased offering Usenet altogether, Sprint no > longer provides access to the alt.* > hierarchy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.%2A_hierarchy>, > and Verizon limiting its Usenet offerings to the Big > 8<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_8_%28Usenet%29>. > The moves came after Cuomo's office located 88 different newsgroups that > contained child pornography < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography>. > Barry Steinhardt, director of the American Civil Liberties > Union<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union>'s > technology and liberty program, compared the action to "taking a > sledgehammer to an ant." <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cuomo> > > -- > > I think it is idiotic and short sighted but I have Verizon which allows the > big 8. I still buy usenet separately from Forte so I can read > alt.fan.pratchett among others. Plus the alt hierarchies are available > through google groups. This also has the effect of killing many of the > local usenet heirachies. > > If they wanted to stop usenet pron most of what was needed to do was block > binaries groups. > > I think this is grandstanding and I will never vote for the fool. I have a > mind to actively boycott New York but I never go there anyway. > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:27 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ISP's are dropping USENET completely now also...i wager at the request of > > the same who are wanting p2p shut down. > > > > Mike > > > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >The bluenoses are merely looking for some way to justify hating you... > > > > > > I is not at all limited to sexually explicit material. > > > > > > In the news today we have reports of China's decision to block parts of > > > the Internet from visiting journalists. These are mainly political > views > > > being blocked. > > > > > > We have Comcast and possibly now AT&T blocking P2P. > > > > > > Last night I was at Home Depot and found the store's parking lot > > > plastered with "No Loitering" signs as well as signs in Spanish that > > > claimed the parking lot was now under video surveillance. > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************* > > > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy > ** > > > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/** > > > > ************************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************* > > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > > ************************************************************************* > > > > > > -- > John Duncan Yoyo > -------------------------------o) > > > ************************************************************************* > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > ************************************************************************* > ************************************************************************* ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *************************************************************************
