Where do you come up with these figures? Have they been fed to you or are 
they just off the top of your head?
    You did get to the meat of the problem however. We might have great medical 
care here in us. But getting it and being able to have access to it is a 
totally different story. And that is what we're talking about.
    As for letting the free market work for insurance companies, I'm all for 
that. Let's stop requiring insurance for damn near everything. Let's make it an 
option. Do you want to buy a house? You don't have to buy fire insurance. You 
want to drive a car? You don't have to have whatever insurance. You want to 
live a few years more? You don't have to buy health insurance. But the option 
could be there if you do.
    I agree that the problem lays in prices charged. But I also believe it's 
our insurance industry that's created this problem, not the lack of free market.


It may seem counterintuitive, but the reason you have home owner's insurance is to benefit the mortgage carriers, not you; your car insurance is to keep others' insurance from going up too high and for the public agencies that cover the ininsured [unless you live in a state where this doesn't exist]--that's why it's required. Requiring you to have health insurance keeps the hospitals from charging insured patients higher fees to cover uninsured patients, and keeps your taxes from covering uninsured patients in expensive emergency rooms.

You'll pay more by not having insurance when you get sick and suffer a medical bankruptcy. Insured patients pay more--providers will charge them more. When everyone is covered by nonprofit and/or public insurance, the costs are reduced significantly. Used to be the best health insurers were private nonprofits like Kaiser Permanente or BC/BS. By switching to a for-profit system in the US, rates skyrocketed, out-of-pocket expenses for insured patients also went up, while insurance co. profits ballooned.

There's no free market. Never has been. Get over it. Deal with the economy as it exists, not in some utopian, fear-inspired fantasy. Good health, quality education, a stable economy with manufacturing, and a clean environment are as important to our security as diplomacy and our military. Who will be healthy and educated well enough to create and run our new clean high tech [and other] industries?


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