> "Deniz Dogan" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> 2009/1/5 Daniel Rebelo de Oliveira <[email protected]>:
>>> Sounds reasonable, are you removing everything, including "google"?
>>
>> I can't answer for everybody, but I think that was what we agreed on
>> and as far as I can see, if we start removing some default webjumps,
>> we might as well remove every single one, for plain consistency.
>>
>> Deniz
>
> I completely agree :)

Some of the webjumps like google and wikipedia are actually OpenSearch
xml files rather than "webjumps" as such.  These files were copied from
Firefox, and as far as I know, there is no easy web repository where one
can go to get them.  So for the time being, we are stuck with at least
distributing these webjumps with conkeror.

Another example of webjumps which conkeror will include for the
foreseeable future is the wikipedia-webjumps module, which simply
involves so much javascript code that it is easier to include it than to
put it on the wiki (but enabling it does involve some code in the rc).

However, for the simple webjumps, I would like to get basically all of
them moved to the wiki.  The basic rationale is..

 - it is typically more efficient to simply go to one place to find the
   webjumps you actually want, rather than having to determine which
   ones are and which are not already included conkeror (by fishing
   through source code).

 - it reduces the sense of playing favorites with certain companies, and
   conversely the need to have an ever-expanding set of included
   webjumps out of a sense of fairness (if we have youtube, does that
   mean we should also have joost and hulu?  let's not go there)

 - hopefully, having the webjumps on the wiki will spur users' interest
   in writing improved versions of those webjumps, with nice features
   like site-specific completions.  (see the magick-options webjump for
   my favorite example of such)

On a sad note, Sheldon Brown passed away quite some time ago, and as
such his website, while entertaining, is not an up-to-date source of
information about bicycling.

-- 
John Foerch

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