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There are 4 messages in this issue.
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1a. Yasaro writing
From: Herman Miller
1b. Re: Yasaro writing
From: Roger Mills
1c. Re: Yasaro writing
From: Eugene Oh
1d. Re: Yasaro writing
From: Tim May
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1a. Yasaro writing
Posted by: "Herman Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:55 pm (PDT)
I'm still trying to figure out the history of sound changes in the
Yasaro language, but I think I have enough to go on for developing the
Yasaro writing system. I added a brief description on Yasaro writing to
the FrathWiki page (http://wiki.frath.net/Yasaro) going over some of the
features of Yasaro spelling based on these historical sound changes. One
thing I'm wondering: are the angle brackets I used on that page 〈...〉
the correct characters for a transcription of the way words are written?
Do they show up correctly in various browsers?
Here's the contents of the text I added to the wiki page:
Yasaro is written using the Lelimi script (Yasaro lelímī "alphabet"),
which is closely related to the Vlika script. The spelling of native
Yasaro words is largely based on the pronunciation of an earlier stage
of the language, Middle Yasaro, while retaining some features of Old
Yasaro pronunciation. Borrowed words are spelled in various ways
depending on when the words were borrowed and from which language.
Long vowels in modern Yasaro were still diphthongs in the Middle Yasaro
period when the spelling conventions were established, so for instance
/vǐ:la/ "reed organ" is spelled 〈veilá〉, and /čěte:/ "ice" is spelled
〈tletéu〉. The spelling of /č/ is especially variable; it developed
from various consonant clusters such as /tl/ and /kr/, as well as /k/
before /i/. (Most occurrences of /ki/ in modern Yasaro are from /ke/ in
Old Yasaro.) Yasaro spelling also preserves syllable-final consonants
which were lost, as in the words /čâ:ŋa/ 〈krávga〉 "to eat" and /mǐra/
〈birás〉 "sun". Double consonants such as 〈ss〉 and 〈hh〉 represent
lengthened consonants in earlier versions of the language which are
pronounced as single consonants in the modern language. The name of the
language itself has one of these double consonants: 〈jassavráň〉.
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1b. Re: Yasaro writing
Posted by: "Roger Mills" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:17 pm (PDT)
Herman Miller wrote:
> One
> thing I'm wondering: are the angle brackets I used on that page 〈...〉
> the correct characters for a transcription of the way words are written?
> Do they show up correctly in various browsers?
Boxes in IE, ? in Firefox.
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1c. Re: Yasaro writing
Posted by: "Eugene Oh" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:31 pm (PDT)
Boxes in Safari too. Why not just use < and > for simplicity?
2006/7/23, Roger Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Herman Miller wrote:
> > One
> > thing I'm wondering: are the angle brackets I used on that page 〈...〉
> > the correct characters for a transcription of the way words are written?
> > Do they show up correctly in various browsers?
>
> Boxes in IE, ? in Firefox.
>
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1d. Re: Yasaro writing
Posted by: "Tim May" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:04 pm (PDT)
Eugene Oh wrote at 2006-07-23 08:16:35 (+0800)
> Boxes in Safari too. Why not just use < and > for simplicity?
>
> 2006/7/23, Roger Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Herman Miller wrote:
> > > One
> > > thing I'm wondering: are the angle brackets I used on that page 〈...〉
> > > the correct characters for a transcription of the way words are written?
> > > Do they show up correctly in various browsers?
> >
> > Boxes in IE, ? in Firefox.
> >
You presumably see boxes because you don't have fonts covering these
characters. They display perfectly in both Firefox and Konqueror.
I'm not sure that they're the theoretically correct characters to use,
though, Herman - they're in the CJK Symbols & Punctuation block. I
think what you want is probably 1{) (U+2329) and 1{* (U+232A) (although
they are marked as equivalent... I'm not entirely sure what that means
in this case).
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