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1a. Re: natlang precedent?? vcc > v:c
From: BPJ
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1a. Re: natlang precedent?? vcc > v:c
Posted by: "BPJ" [email protected]
Date: Sat May 4, 2013 3:37 am ((PDT))
2013-05-03 21:37, Matthew Boutilier skrev:
> i was wondering if anyone knew, off the top of their head, of an instance
> where a short vowel preceding a geminate consonant lengthens when the
> language as a whole loses phonemically distinctive consonant gemination.
>
> so, like, to account for all the original syllable structures:
> *biki > biki
> *bikki > bīki
> *bīki > bia̯ki (the diphthongization is separate; happens before the
> aforementioned geminate-loss thing)
>
> well??
>
> thanks in advance,
> matt
>
AFAIK it's usually the other way around: _CC shortens
and _CV or even _C# lengthens. In 14th century Scandinavian:
* V:C > V:C
* VCC > VCC
* V:CC > VCC
* V(:)# > V:
* VC > V:C, some times/places/words VCC
* V(:) > V / [-stress]
Aptly known as the Scandinavian quantity shift.
Other Germanic languages had similar shifts in
vowels at about the same time with concommitant
loss of consonant length. Needless to say there
are still fringe dialects with the old system;
e.g. the Swedish of Finland still has stressed VC#.
AFMOC Linjeb has a twist (partly suggested on this
list, by Alex IIRC): first vowels lengthen before
voiced plosives (P/PP), later voiceless P / V_V >
voiced and all PP > voiceless P.
/bpj
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